What can be done? Iran

[T@T]

Appears the poop could hit the fan.

The Pentagon and U.S. Central Command are updating military plans to strike Iran's nuclear sites, preparing up-to-date options for the president in the event he decides to take such action, an Obama administration official told CNN Sunday.

Love this part.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad continued to amp up his rhetoric against the West on Sunday, claiming that Iran is so powerful today that no country would dare attack it.
"Iran's army is so mighty today that no enemy can have a foul thought of invading Iran's territory," the Iranian leader said in a speech, according to state media.

News flash Ahmadinejad...you won't even see them coming.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/04/...ex.html?hpt=T1

[HotHotHeat]

Without knowing basically anything about warfare, I would have to argue based on what I know of Iran that they would be fairly successful at defending their borders. Certainly no Iraq. If the US went in it would be with the support of one of either China or Russia...And I'm not sure that would happen. Someone just needs to kill Akmashatbrained.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Without knowing basically anything about warfare, I would have to argue based on what I know of Iran that they would be fairly successful at defending their borders. Certainly no Iraq. If the US went in it would be with the support of one of either China or Russia...And I'm not sure that would happen. Someone just needs to kill Akmashatbrained.

I seriously doubt they will invade.

They'll just send in special ops teams and laser guide the bombs down.

Idea is to destroy the nuclear facilities but leave the country with some form of stability.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Azure

I seriously doubt they will invade.

They'll just send in special ops teams and laser guide the bombs down.

Idea is to destroy the nuclear facilities but leave the country with some form of stability.

Special ops won't be needed. GPS guided bombs will do the trick just fine.

Iran will be a great testing ground for the new F-22 RAPTOR!!

[sa226]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Without knowing basically anything about warfare, I would have to argue based on what I know of Iran that they would be fairly successful at defending their borders. Certainly no Iraq. If the US went in it would be with the support of one of either China or Russia...And I'm not sure that would happen. Someone just needs to kill Akmashatbrained.

In a land war I have no doubt that Iran is quite able to defend themselves. Even still, the US is at the forefront of any and all technological advances in warfare and would have the edge.


I don't really know numbers wise how they stack up against each other. One significant edge Iran would have would be "intangibles" I guess you could call them. Iranian soldiers are fresh, and would be extremely motivated to defend their nation, as well they would be fighting on territory they know better than anyone. US soldiers who are already spread thin as it is would have low morale and probably wary from tours already in Iraq and Afghanistan.


One thing is for certain; there are few countries if any that can match US air power and air superiority. That would be the kicker right there.


However It would have to be a drastic situation for the west to consider military action of any kind against Iran. I hope I don't see it in my lifetime.

[Muta]

I think a better military strategy for the US would be to send in a single lone warrior with a slingshot.

Somehow, it'll all work out, and it won't cost the taxpayers a cent.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by sa226

However It would have to be a drastic situation for the west to consider military action of any kind against Iran. I hope I don't see it in my lifetime.

The drastic situation is to make sure these lunatics never develop a nuclear bomb.

This wouldn't be Iraq all over again it would just be some surgical strikes to make sure they don't.

[Huntingwhale]

[PIMking]

Iraq had the worlds 4th largest army when the US attacked and made it to Bagdag in what 3 weeks?

Iran will be overran in a couple of months.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Huntingwhale

Thats the same painting of Israel that Ahmadinejad has in his prayer room.

[1stLand]

it would be a big mistake to invade Iran.

adopting a policy of isolationism is what Canada and the USA need to adopt going forwards, before we bankrupt our countries further and lead more of our young men into harms way no payoff whatsoever

[T@T]

Originally Posted by 1stLand

it would be a big mistake to invade Iran.

My goodness, once again, there is a no reason to "invade" Iran. The intelligence is saying Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons.

All that is needed is airstrikes and a stiff warning not to bother trying again.

[CaptainCrunch]

There will not be an land invasion of Iran.

Even though the American's would have a big advantage in quality of armoured vehicles, tanks and artillary, and the individual infantry man is far better trained then the cannon fodder poorly trained average shmuck in Iran, the American's won't want to deal with the quagmire.

The Iranian airforce is a joke, its made up of old F-14's and various other vintage jets salted with some advanced Russian Airframes. Their antiair defense doesn't have a counter for America's stealth technology, or America's capability to deploy highly accurate sea launched cruise missiles, and don't forget that America could deploy hyper accurate long range satellite aimed artillery right on their border.

The American's would paste Iran from the air, if they get really pissed they would knock down every building over a story tall, destroy their energy and military industry, knock down every government building, go hard after republican guard barracks to weaken them.

But I doubt that an American foot would touch Iranian soil.

The goal would be to force the Iranians to rebuild their country for the next 500 years.

[1stLand]

Originally Posted by T@T

My goodness, once again, there is a no reason to "invade" Iran. The intelligence is saying Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons.

All that is needed is airstrikes and a stiff warning not to bother trying again.

air strikes is an invasion of their airspace.

its acceptable to strategically bomb their nuclear sites? If its that simple, why didnt the Coalition of the willing do that to Iraq?
Oh you mean the Iraq wasn't for their Oil interests?



If Israel feels threatened about Iran's alleged Nuclear ambitions, it should perhaps disarm itself of its own Nuclear arsenal and maybe Iran won't feel so threatened and wont need to acquire its own nukes. Its foreign policy 101 "Balance of Power". What do you expect from a country that neighbours a nation that was just invaded and occupied by the neo-cons?

bah, I hate getting into political debates about countries I could care less about, let alone see my tax paying money go towards wars that have no bearing on my existence as a human being.

so I am going to just leave it at that, and continue to complain about Darryl Sutter's terrible moves as GM

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by PIMking

Iraq had the worlds 4th largest army when the US attacked and made it to Bagdag in what 3 weeks?

Iran will be overran in a couple of months.

i'm calling BS on that one, you're honestly saying that Iraq had a bigger military than one of Russia, China or Britain? i'm pretty sure some of the other European nations like Germany or France would have a more sizeable military as well

[CaptainCrunch]

Yeah, Israel is going to take down one of their major weapons systems in the face of a group of nations that wants to wipe them off the map, including Iran.

Yeah, that's awesome.

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

i'm calling BS on that one, you're honestly saying that Iraq had a bigger military than one of Russia, China or Britain? i'm pretty sure some of the other European nations like Germany or France would have a more sizeable military as well

The Germans cant and dont have a big military due to the treaty of Versailles.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

i'm calling BS on that one, you're honestly saying that Iraq had a bigger military than one of Russia, China or Britain? i'm pretty sure some of the other European nations like Germany or France would have a more sizeable military as well

Just before their collapse, Iraq's army had 1,050,000 men in uniform.

China has 7.5 million.

Russian's army is at 1,037,000

America's army is about 1.45 million

North Korea's is about 1.9 million

France is just over 600,000

Germany's is about just over 600,000 as well.

I believe at the time China, Russia and North Korea were ahead of Iraq's in manpower strength. The American's were slightly ahead as well. But there was a massive drop off after the top 5

Its important to note that India has leapfrogged a lot of nations with a strength of about 2.5 million today.

[CaptainCrunch]

Global fire power ranks nations based on their military size and the amount of combined firepower that they can employ

http://www.globalfirepower.com/

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

i'm calling BS on that one, you're honestly saying that Iraq had a bigger military than one of Russia, China or Britain? i'm pretty sure some of the other European nations like Germany or France would have a more sizeable military as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...mber_of_troops

According to this list Iran has the largest army..once you include paramilitary. I am assuming that Iran has large civilian defence force similar to Switzerland.