11-23-2009, 02:32 PM
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#61
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Rifleman
I've never seen one of these Unidentified Flying Objects. Too bad for me. 
But if these are real, I doubt they come from a distant planet. These things have been mentioned in ancient texts, drawn in paintings, I think even found on hieroglyphs. They've been here throughout Earth's history. It's not likely an advanced civilization would be casually observing us for thousands of years.
More likely, they are from Earth, and are phenomena we can't observe yet because our technology hasn't caught up to a level where we can detect these things at will. (Kind of like ghosts.)
Or if they really are from outer space, they are from a system so close to ours that flying by is just a stop on the way somewhere else. |
Or what many people think, they are from earth, from our future and found a way to go back in time.
But to simply say another life form 1000's of years more advanced than us couldn't learn to travel faster than light is living in a bubble IMO.
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11-23-2009, 02:36 PM
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#62
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Loves Teh Chat!
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The universe is HUGE (not to mention constantly expanding). If there wasn't life elsewhere I would be very surprised.
Will we ever meet other lifeforms in our lifetime? Who knows.
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11-23-2009, 02:38 PM
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#64
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Torture
The universe is HUGE (not to mention constantly expanding). If there wasn't life elsewhere I would be very surprised.
Will we ever meet other lifeforms in our lifetime? Who knows.
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In my opinion, we already have.
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11-23-2009, 02:38 PM
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#65
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
How? Theres more evidence towards Aliens being real, then "god"
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Uh, what evidence?
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11-23-2009, 02:40 PM
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#66
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Uh, what evidence?
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Are you serious?
Wow.
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11-23-2009, 02:41 PM
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
Are you serious?
Wow.
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Yes, I am serious. What actual evidence can you give me that proves the actual existence of aliens any more than the actual existence of a creator god.
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11-23-2009, 02:41 PM
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#68
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Gods just a weather balloon too
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11-23-2009, 02:45 PM
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#69
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Yes, I am serious. What actual evidence can you give me that proves the actual existence of aliens any more than the actual existence of a creator god.
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Tens of thousands of UFO sightings.
Thousands and thousands of people telling similar stories about alien abductions.
Cattle mutiltations.
Area 51
Ruins on Mars
etc
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11-23-2009, 02:45 PM
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#70
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Yes, I am serious. What actual evidence can you give me that proves the actual existence of aliens any more than the actual existence of a creator god.
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The presence of extraterrestrial beings can be tested and proved. The presence of god can never be tested or proven true or false.
Also, statistic and probability can hypothesize the existence of other forms of life. Statistics and probability can not hypothesize the existence of God.
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11-23-2009, 02:46 PM
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#71
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Playfair
I find it strange that people can believe so easily in alien life (not saying that is wrong in and of itself), in theories such as aliens built the pyramids, that there is cities on the moon, yet they can't believe in an Almighty God.
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There's a possibility that the original God in the heavens and aliens are one and the same.
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11-23-2009, 02:47 PM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
Tens of thousands of UFO sightings.
Thousands and thousands of people telling similar stories about alien abductions.
Cattle mutiltations.
Area 51
Ruins on Mars
etc
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I'm sorry, I believe in the existence of other intelligences out there, but to use these as proof of their existence is laughable.
It has not been proven. But science can provide us with a very high probability that they do exist. Saying that the exist because of mutilations is preposterous and basically anti-science.
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11-23-2009, 02:52 PM
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
Tens of thousands of UFO sightings.
Thousands and thousands of people telling similar stories about alien abductions.
Cattle mutiltations.
Area 51
Ruins on Mars
etc
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Ruins on Mars? Area 51? Cattle mutilations? UFO sightings?
I give you thousands upon thousands upon millions of supposed "miracles." I give you supposed religious artifacts, I give you religious holy texts, I give you actual historical figures in Jesus and Muhammed.
Again, where is the actual evidence that proves the existence of aliens over the existence of a creator god? You're giving me things that are about as provable as any other religious claim, and telling me thousands of UFO sightings outweigh the religious experiences of billions of people throughout the history of the world.
I personally believe in the existence of alien life, someplace, and I'm agnostic, so I don't necessarily believe in the existence of a god, but there isn't any more evidence to prove the existence of aliens than there is to prove the existence of a creator god.
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11-23-2009, 02:54 PM
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#74
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by worth
The presence of extraterrestrial beings can be tested and proved. The presence of god can never be tested or proven true or false.
Also, statistic and probability can hypothesize the existence of other forms of life. Statistics and probability can not hypothesize the existence of God.
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So statistics and probability can say there is a chance that aliens exist?
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11-23-2009, 02:56 PM
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#75
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First Line Centre
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What ruins on Mars?
If you reply with "The Face on Mars" I may give myself a concussion with a face palm.
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11-23-2009, 03:03 PM
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#76
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
Ruins on Mars? Area 51? Cattle mutilations? UFO sightings?
I give you thousands upon thousands upon millions of supposed "miracles." I give you supposed religious artifacts, I give you religious holy texts, I give you actual historical figures in Jesus and Muhammed.
Again, where is the actual evidence that proves the existence of aliens over the existence of a creator god? You're giving me things that are about as provable as any other religious claim, and telling me thousands of UFO sightings outweigh the religious experiences of billions of people throughout the history of the world.
I personally believe in the existence of alien life, someplace, and I'm agnostic, so I don't necessarily believe in the existence of a god, but there isn't any more evidence to prove the existence of aliens than there is to prove the existence of a creator god.
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If there was no bible, would anyone know about "god"?
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11-23-2009, 03:06 PM
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#77
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
If there was no bible, would anyone know about "god"?
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People worshiped a god(s) long before the bible was completed...
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11-23-2009, 03:07 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FoxMulder91
If there was no bible, would anyone know about "god"?
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So how are the white supremacists doing on Nexopia?
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11-23-2009, 03:07 PM
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#80
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by HPLovecraft
People worshiped a god(s) long before the bible was completed...
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People also thought the world was flat, the sun was alive, etc.
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