Palin considers a Palin-Beck 2012 Ticket...yes...Glenn Beck

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by HOZ

Bwahahaha!!! You got to be kidding! Obama is a bumpkin. Want a run down?

British PM upon his first visit withthe newly elected President had given Obama a set of pens made from part of the HMS Gannet, a Victorian-era anti-slave ship. A desk that has sat in the Oval Office since 1880 was made from the timbers of the HMS Resolute, the Gannet's sister ship. It was a stunningly thoughtful and unique gift left reciprocated (Unless of course you call DVD set thoughtful). But even worse, Obama refused to hold a joint press conference with Brown or invite him for an official White House dinner. And to top it all off, he sent back a bust of Churchill that was lent to the White House after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

- Check: British kicked in the teeth.


Since March, Obama's social gaffes have included bowing to the Saudi king
- staring at the rear end of a 16-year-old girl

- suggested that Cambridge Police Officer James Crowley was stupid

- refused to meet with the Dalai Lama
- he refused five requests from Gordon Brown for a one-on-one meeting but found time to fly to Copenhagen to promote Chicago's Olympic bid

- and this month he sent Hillary Clinton to attend the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall(very minor world event not even on his wonderfulness' radar), but later made up for that by sending a video message of him talking about himself to Berlin. - Check: Germans kicked in the teeth

- Then topped it all with a bow to the emperor of Japan.
Obama cannot even blame the Japan bow on proper protocol. It was anything but proper. It was so inappropriate that it even offended the Japanese. Japanese newspapers refused to print the greeting it was so insulting. Check - Japanese kicked in the teeth.


Do I need to go into his handling of the trade with Canada? How about his waffling on Afghanistan? Iran?



So what standing are you talking about?With Chavezes of the world?

What are YOU talking (and gloating) about? Let's say everything you've written is accurate. Don't you find it odd that dispite all these supposed 'gaffes', Obama is admired outside of America more than GWB could ever have wished and America is held in higher esteem by it's allies (the general populace of each country, not necessarily the politicians)?

Defies your version of reality doesn't it?

[longsuffering]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

For someone so irrelevant, she sure has become relevant. Why? I have no idea.

Haven't you heard? She wrote a book.

[MRCboicgy]

if that were to happen, and then they were actually elected (doubt that, but ya never know) I would not cross that border for 4 years, I'll even switch departments at work to not have to do it.

[mikey_the_redneck]

I have a mad MILF crush on Sarah Palin..............and her daughter Bristol too, oh yeah.....giggity giggity.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

I'd say that if she is going to keep putting herself out in the public eye, she will continue to be called out on her short-comings.

If you want to call that piling on, that's up to you, but should she just be given free reign to say anything she wants without consequence?

I'm still not sure why her comment on the use of a picture of her being sexist is something that requires consequences.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

Haven't you heard? She wrote a book.

Yes. She's not politically relevant. Book or no book.

[HotHotHeat]

HOZ's post really reminded me how badly conservatives were looking for something to rag on Obama for. It's just a completely different game for them. They have to wait for something like this, whereas I could turn on CNN any time for the past 8 years and be amused in mere seconds.

Regardless, this is an insignificant event, and it's what the right wing thrives on.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I'm still not sure why her comment on the use of a picture of her being sexist is something that requires consequences.

You gotta admit that she does use the sexy dame angle to her advantage when it works for her. Griping that a magazine uses a photo she recently posed for (leaning on the American flag no less) is sexist doesn't really fly.

If she was a homely woman we'd never have even heard of her. We all know that. Milking the hot mama treatment one day and bitching about the hot mama treatment the next just plain ol' stinks.

[Calgaryborn]

Firstly, if your news sources ran any deeper thn the Daily Show you would know Sarah Palin just recently said she wasn't interested in running for President in the next election.

So some reporter asks her(while she is promoting her book) a hypothetical question: If she was going to run for President who would she like for a running mate? Sarah's response was to suggest maybe Glen Beck because he would be a hoot. That doesn't mean she has changed her mind.

Secondly, Sarah Palin isn't stupid; She just used the irrational fear millions of left leaning American have for her and Glen Beck to gain free advertisement for her book. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up with the best seller of the year. She is going to make millions.

Thirdly, Glen Beck is a hoot. The guy must be on Cocaine or something. There is a reason why he has such a highly rated news commentary program. Everybody likes a good conspiracy theory and he presents them in very creative ways. He also has been all over some stories the regular news media missed or ignored. The Acorn scandal is good example of this.

Lastly, Newsweek's choice of picture for their Sarah Palin story was sexist. The story was about politics; not running. They went out of their way to buy a picture that had Sarah posing as something other than a politician.

You can claim Sarah Palin is irrelevant and stupid. You can present her as a light weight politician. But the fact is she still has the attention of the American people. That in and of itself is rare and powerful.

[Weiser Wonder]

That's a creative way of viewing things, Calgaryborn.

AP fact checks Palin's book (and it gets ugly):
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1004042830

She's just not very bright and it's getting more obvious.

[Caged Great]

Another reason why I would be VERY afraid of having someone like Palin in is that in an interview with Barbara Walters, she said that she encourages settlement of the Palestinian lands by Israel.

Does she not understand that we/the US are kind of sort of at war with two Muslim countries and are trying to gain favour there in order to bring stability to the region. Doing that would give a BIG f - you to them and would increase the hatred towards the US.

Also to HOZ, so what if Obama's had a few gaffs, nobody is perfect. I'm sure that the Republicans have never had any screw ups ever. But by in large, the slights towards our allies is not really a huge thing in the scheme of things. It's not nice, and should be worked on for the future, but it is somewhat minor. The area in which Obama has helped, is with those Chavez types. With that speech in Egypt, he helped to change opinions of the United States in a favourable fashion, which if played right, it could go a long way to help to stabilize the region. Thereby allowing the US to pull out of both Iraq and Afghanistan and work together with those nations to maintain lasting peace in the region.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

That's a creative way of viewing things, Calgaryborn.

AP fact checks Palin's book (and it gets ugly):
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/ea..._id=1004042830

She's just not very bright and it's getting more obvious.

AP assigned 11 reporters to pick apart her book and your above article was the best they could come up with. Look at the content of the article. The AP were truly grasping at straws.

Nothing in the article speaks to Sarah Palin's intelligence either way. Your argument lacks substance.

[transplant99]

Secondly, Sarah Palin isn't stupid;

Actually...in the context of being a part of running a nation...yes she is.

Thirdly, Glen Beck is a hoot.

No, he really is not. He isn't funny, creative or even accurate with his "reporting". He is a right wing lackey who aspires to be another Limbaugh and all the wealth that comes with such. 10 years ago, Glenn Beck was a pretty darn good talk show host, who took the time to go in depth on issues. He didn't care what light his results painted either side of the political spectrum in. Since then, and more specifically the last 4 or 5 years? Not so much. This should not be a surprise though as he signed a deal to work for Murdoch, and as such that then means you give up your individuality and join the "group-think" mentality of FoxNews.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

You gotta admit that she does use the sexy dame angle to her advantage when it works for her. Griping that a magazine uses a photo she recently posed for (leaning on the American flag no less) is sexist doesn't really fly.

If she was a homely woman we'd never have even heard of her. We all know that. Milking the hot mama treatment one day and bitching about the hot mama treatment the next just plain ol' stinks.

Look at this, a logical, rational response to a question! It only took 12 hours. Thanks Rogue!

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

She just used the irrational fear millions of left leaning American have for her and Glen Beck to gain free advertisement for her book. I wouldn't be surprised if she ends up with the best seller of the year. She is going to make millions.

I only fear I have of Sarah Palin is whether I'll be able to keep it in my pants when I meet her in an elevator one day. If everyone from the GOP were that hot, they might be onto something.

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Actually...in the context of being a part of running a nation...yes she is.

What are you afraid of? She wouldn't have added a trillion dollars to the debt or taken over control of a car company and several banks. She wouldn't have let lobbyist run Washington or hired racists and tax cheats. She wouldn't have insulted America's allies. She would have been decisive in Afghanistan knowing their were long suffering allies on the ground who have been waiting to see some benefit for the sacrifice they have made.

Originally Posted by transplant99

No, he really is not. He isn't funny, creative or even accurate with his "reporting". He is a right wing lackey who aspires to be another Limbaugh and all the wealth that comes with such. 10 years ago, Glenn Beck was a pretty darn good talk show host, who took the time to go in depth on issues. He didn't care what light his results painted either side of the political spectrum in. Since then, and more specifically the last 4 or 5 years? Not so much. This should not be a surprise though as he signed a deal to work for Murdoch, and as such that then means you give up your individuality and join the "group-think" mentality of FoxNews.

Is that the same Murdoch who endorsed Obama in the last election? The difference between Murdoch and the owners of the other major News outlets is that he is in it for the money whereas the other owners have put promoting their left leaning ideology ahead of business.

[Bagor]

Loved the McCain billed her 50k for vetting lie. How could she expect anyone to believe that?

Every man and his dog knows that there is now way she was vetted.

[Rockin' Flames]

Originally Posted by longsuffering

What are YOU talking (and gloating) about? Let's say everything you've written is accurate. Don't you find it odd that dispite all these supposed 'gaffes', Obama is admired outside of America more than GWB could ever have wished and America is held in higher esteem by it's allies (the general populace of each country, not necessarily the politicians)?

Defies your version of reality doesn't it?

Obama may be admired outside of America but it isn't for the most part the people outside of America that vote for him. Obama's approval ratings in the US have been slipping (which as far as I'm aware happens with all presidents initially anyway), however, his disapproval rating has steadily increased over the past year. This disapproval is largely fueled by the treatment of the war. Link

[Rockin' Flames]

Originally Posted by Calgaryborn

AP assigned 11 reporters to pick apart her book and your above article was the best they could come up with. Look at the content of the article. The AP were truly grasping at straws.

Nothing in the article speaks to Sarah Palin's intelligence either way. Your argument lacks substance.

My question on the fact check is more why would AP assign 11 people to fact check her book when they didn't fact check either of Obama's two books or Joe Biden's book.

[transplant99]

What are you afraid of?

Her....and her whole outlook on the world...which is a reality that simply does not exist.

Anyone, and i mean anyone, who would use their geographical location as a way to "explain" what they would do with foreign policy, is frighteningly stupid. And certainly no where near having any ability whatsoever to actually being the person in charge of such.

She wouldn't have added a trillion dollars to the debt or taken over control of a car company and several banks.

Who has taken control of these institutions? Is Obama now the CEO of GM or something? No. Don't be so naive. He is simply holding companies accountable for accepting massive loans, whether you think that is a good idea or not. The republicans would of done the same damn thing...in fact was Bush not in office when this talk all started?

She wouldn't have let lobbyist run Washington or hired racists and tax cheats.

LOL!!...Yeah OK. Sarah freaking Palin would of singlehandedly changed how Washington works...she is that brilliant. Just...wow.

Im going no further with this...its not worth it.

She is a self-promoting narcissist who should have never been chosen as a running mate to McCain to begin with. Everybody including the GOP know this in hindsight. She has no business being in the business of running the biggest economy in the free world....or even worse being Commader in Cheif of the worlds most potent military.

i hope she runs as well in 3 years so the Republicans fall even farther than they have and are forced to re-group and start actually doing what McCain said he would. Work with others instead of against anyone who disagrees with them. The de-polorization of the US, never mind the rest of the world, is in my mind the single biggest step the country has to take. Sarah friggin Palin would be a step in the complete opposite direction.