Who's getting the H1N1 shot? - Page 4 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

photon · 10-23-2009, 01:25 PM

Well if you don't do it for yourself, think of it like giving blood... even if you don't get sick, getting it might be saving the life of someone else who doesn't get it too as a result of good herd immunity.

Dion · 10-23-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I don't get shots based on hysteria, and prefer to limit the amount of medication in my body as much as possible anyway.

I don't believe this is hysteria. Myself I try to limit the amount of meds in my body also. This time around I think getting the H1N1 vaccine is a must IMO. It's not that I think I will get it, it's the off chance that I do and that I could be passing it on to others in the high risk group.

flylock shox · 10-23-2009, 01:34 PM

No.

I'd kinda like to see what this thing's got.

Bring it on, pig.

CrzyCanuck · 10-23-2009, 01:34 PM

Seen this 60 minutes clip from 1979 posted online thought it was relevent.

http://shuswapnews.com/news/2009/09/...umentary-1979/

J pold · 10-23-2009, 01:35 PM

Nope.

4X4 · 10-23-2009, 01:47 PM

No.

- I HATE needles
- I HATE line ups
- I rarely get sick

alltherage · 10-23-2009, 01:49 PM

IMO this H1N1 thing is really more hype than anything. The news corps are getting a massive pay day out of this.

Just like the friggin bird flu. What happened there? NOTHING!

stang · 10-23-2009, 01:56 PM

I have gotten 2 flu shots in my life. Those are the only 2 years I have got the flu.

So no.

Dion · 10-23-2009, 02:10 PM

The provincial government website is reporting there's been another H1N1 death in Alberta. That brings the total to 9 overall for the province.

For more details log onto am770chqr.com

Machiavelli · 10-23-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

No, I would only get it if I was in a higher risk group. As a young healthy guy, I'm not very concerned about a flu less harmful than the average flu.

1) Young otherwise healthy adults have been the most susceptible.

2) It's not less harmful. The regular seasonal flu is the most dangerous to the very young and the very old, and if death occurs, it's usually a slow progression, from kind of sick, to very sick, to pneumonia. H1N1 can have someone to running a marathon one day to a ventilator in the ICU the next.

FurnaceFace · 10-23-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli

2) It's not less harmful. The regular seasonal flu is the most dangerous to the very young and the very old, and if death occurs, it's usually a slow progression, from kind of sick, to very sick, to pneumonia. H1N1 can have someone to running a marathon one day to a ventilator in the ICU the next.

I suspect the same thing could be said about the "regular" flu too. There will always be cases of "but he was so healthy!" with any illness. A paper cut given the right environment and right set of circumstances can kill someone.

If people want the shot or feel it's going to get them through the season then I'm all for it. Some of the hysteria over this is a bit over the top for me though, like the billion bottles of anti-bacterial stuff. Something I read a couple of years ago indicated the anti-bacterial stuff isn't necessarily the best thing to use. We have good bacteria on our skill and the goop doesn't discriminate so all bacteria good or bad "dies" which can cause more problems. Also the article implied because of the increased use of this product, there was mutation occurring and this could be a big contributor in the new viruses we're seeing. Perhaps Lchoy or some other people who are more medically in the know can comment on this.

Like Stang's experience, I've known a bunch of people in past years got the shot and then got the flu (and not immediately after the shot). It'll be interesting to see if this occurs with this shot. Given the number of people who will get it, I hope not.

For me, I have no plans to get it, especially next week, but I might change my mind in a few weeks. In the meantime, I was in Mexico in September and ate pig at every meal to ensure I built up a good tolerance and then I've been supplementing with weekly pig eating to keep me going. You know what they say, a ham sandwich a day, keeps the virus at bay.

.I hope the green text is not required, that should be obvious.

FireFly · 10-23-2009, 02:41 PM

Not I. I'd rather get it and lose a few pounds than get stuck with another needle by a crabby nurse who's all about the jab and go.

But really, I don't think I've had a flu in a long time and I never get a shot.

Peanut · 10-23-2009, 02:42 PM

Yes, because of my 3.5 month old baby. Would have been getting the regular seasonal one anyways this year because of her even if this H1N1 thing didn't materialize. So I don't really see the big ordeal with getting the H1N1 shot instead. H1N1 is basically this year's seasonal flu. And any flu can be really bad for young babies, not just H1N1.

Edited to add: I also got the flu randomly in mid-June while I was still pregnant, and it was pretty brutal for 10 days. So I'm thinking I might have actually already even had the swine flu (which hopefully means I would have some or total immunity), but I talked to my doctor about it and he said to get the vaccine just in case.

Machiavelli · 10-23-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FireFly

Not I. I'd rather get it and lose a few pounds than get stuck with another needle by a crabby nurse who's all about the jab and go.

Or you could get it and die in a couple of days.

Not to be a fear-mongerer, but it's happened.

flip · 10-23-2009, 02:47 PM

Until Canada resembles the movie Outbreak I'm not even slightly concerned.

zuluking · 10-23-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lchoy

Not true at all

Here is the Notice of Decision by Health Canada
It is an inactivated virus and "shotgunned" to increase immune response

http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/prodp...132070-eng.php

There is concern about the speed that this thing has been put through. However an extensive world wide network of surveillance has been set up to monitor for vaccine adverse effects. This will be the most monitored vaccination in history. Also, the speed in Canada's and the world response can be attributed to the development of the Canada's Pandemic plan that was created right after the Avian flu/SARS events. In some cases, this is the first time since it's inception that the pandemic plan has been activated

That's awesome if you could unvaccinated!

Winsor_Pilates · 10-23-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Machiavelli

1) Young otherwise healthy adults have been the most susceptible.

2) It's not less harmful. The regular seasonal flu is the most dangerous to the very young and the very old, and if death occurs, it's usually a slow progression, from kind of sick, to very sick, to pneumonia. H1N1 can have someone to running a marathon one day to a ventilator in the ICU the next.

Do you have any medical sources to back this up? Everything I've read has said the opposite, with children and elderly being at most risk (as always), and there are clearly many many time more people getting sick and/or dying from regular seasonal flu.
I'm not 100% set on this one. If I start reading from enough credible sources that I should be getting this shot, then I will; but I don't want to get it based simply on mass panic and news sensationalization.

You Need a Thneed · 10-23-2009, 02:56 PM

No, I will not be getting it.

Peanut · 10-23-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Do you have any medical sources to back this up? Everything I've read has said the opposite, with children and elderly being at most risk (as always), and there are clearly many many time more people getting sick and/or dying from regular seasonal flu.
I'm not 100% set on this one. If I start reading from enough credible sources that I should be getting this shot, then I will; but I don't want to get it based simply on mass panic and news sensationalization.

Do you have anything to back up that many, many more people are getting the seasonal flu right now? I was at the doctor yesterday and he indicated that basically the only flu in the population right now is H1N1.

FlamesAddiction · 10-23-2009, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Do you have any medical sources to back this up? Everything I've read has said the opposite, with children and elderly being at most risk (as always), and there are clearly many many time more people getting sick and/or dying from regular seasonal flu.
I'm not 100% set on this one. If I start reading from enough credible sources that I should be getting this shot, then I will; but I don't want to get it based simply on mass panic and news sensationalization.

I've heard the same thing as Machiavelli.

This flu is apparently different in that it is more severe in younger people. The theory I heard is that in the 1950s and 60s, a similar flu hit and so many people born before then have built up an immunity.... which is partly why I don't really want to get the shot. I'd rather get the flu now and hopefully prepare my immune system for it now instead of 30 or 40 years from now when I will be old.