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Old 11-17-2009, 12:04 PM   #61
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OMG, bathtub scene, soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hot!

...and cold
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:03 PM   #62
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OMG, bathtub scene, soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo hot!
Heh, when that scene was going on I turned to my wife and said "Doesn't this strike you as just an excuse to have Ali Larter in her underwear?" not that I don't appreciate it along with Claire in the short-shorts.

Random Plot Holes in this episode (Which Heroes has far too often):

- Peter can only have one power at a time... so he just threw away Hiro's cure?
- Bennett said that the Kid's power was Life & Death... so he didn't even try to resurrect his real brother?
- Mohinder has super-strength (last I heard anyways) but a psych-ward jacket can hold him?
- Samual managed to collect all those people of abilities in just 2 months and convinced them to join the carnaval as a way of life?
- Syler knows how to put himself back in his own body when they firmly established that Parkman controls his power regardless of who controls his body? How now.
- Hiro can time travel again but instead of going back and grabbing Charlie off the set of Glee... I mean grabbing Charlie before Samual can abduct her he does the badguys bidding? Or travelling to the future and asking himself where he found her and then travel to whenever she is and bringing her back to the present if you insist on obeying causality (Time travel as a plot device sucks that way, they should really just limit Hiro's ability to freezing time).
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:19 PM   #63
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- Peter can only have one power at a time... so he just threw away Hiro's cure?
Yup, pretty much

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- Mohinder has super-strength (last I heard anyways) but a psych-ward jacket can hold him?
Niki/Jessica also had superstrength in season 1 and was also kept in check by a straightjacket. The key here, I think, is that he was incredibly disoriented and then heavily sedated while in the jacket.

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- Samual managed to collect all those people of abilities in just 2 months and convinced them to join the carnaval as a way of life?
Those people have been in the carnival before Samuel started recruiting other people like Tracy, Claire, Peter, etc. The carnival has always been a refuge for people with abilities to live a normal life where they don't have to hide their powers. I don't think Samuel quite understands that the more specials he has around him, the more powerful he is; though the business with the compasses and the sudden change in character for him (from when he met Mohinder) might indicate that he's starting to catch on.

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- Syler knows how to put himself back in his own body when they firmly established that Parkman controls his power regardless of who controls his body? How now.
They also established that Sylar can also use Parkman's ability while in his body, and one would think that would especially be the case when Sylar is the one in control. Keep in mind that Sylar's ability always allows him to take other peoples abilities and understand/use them better than the people he takes them from.

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- Hiro can time travel again but instead of going back and grabbing Charlie off the set of Glee... I mean grabbing Charlie before Samual can abduct her he does the badguys bidding? Or travelling to the future and asking himself where he found her and then travel to whenever she is and bringing her back to the present if you insist on obeying causality (Time travel as a plot device sucks that way, they should really just limit Hiro's ability to freezing time).
It took Hiro almost that entire episode to travel again, and when he showed up in Mohinder's hotel room he had a huge nose-bleed. I think it's becoming increasingly difficult for Hiro to travel, so he figured it would probably be easier and had less chance of killing him if he just went back in time once to do this guy's bidding than try and go back to save Charlie AGAIN and all the subsequent travelling he'd have to do if he at all upset the timeline.

I think they've been pretty consistent with Hiro's power this season, but I agree that time travel is always really tricky as a plot device. I also think it's really funny to compare the Hiro from "Five Years Gone" with the carefully planned out timelines to present Hiro who just travels back and forth willy-nilly.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:07 PM   #64
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They also established that Sylar can also use Parkman's ability while in his body, and one would think that would especially be the case when Sylar is the one in control. Keep in mind that Sylar's ability always allows him to take other peoples abilities and understand/use them better than the people he takes them from.
Yeah, but that ability is in Syler/Nathan not in Parkman. They screwed the pooch on the whether Syler can use Parkmans ability by first having him use it in the House with the suspect (the girl under the stairs scene) but then ignoring that with the travelling through the airport with the gun scene (What with the Parkman "You'll never control my power" rant).

I'll give them credit thou they at least remembered to come up with a good reason why Claire's magic blood couldn't cure Hiro.

Kinda obvious how their going to solve Hiro's brain problem. Either Syler or Peter using Sylers ability is going to fix him ala Charlie. A little to foreshadowed that one is IMO.
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I wish the Haitian would get a storyline of his own....he's ten times cooler than Suresh and way more interesting than carnival dude.
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:01 PM   #66
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Random Plot Holes in this episode (Which Heroes has far too often):

- Bennett said that the Kid's power was Life & Death... so he didn't even try to resurrect his real brother?
My understanding was that there were limits to what he could do. Otherwise he would have revived his parents.
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Old 11-24-2009, 08:47 AM   #67
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In the Bennet thanksgiving dinner...where was Lyle? no mention of him. did i miss something here, did he die?

with every episode Samuel gets more and more annoying.
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Old 11-24-2009, 09:22 AM   #68
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In the Bennet thanksgiving dinner...where was Lyle? no mention of him. did i miss something here, did he die?

with every episode Samuel gets more and more annoying.
They mentioned that Lyle couldn't make it. I think he had school homework or something?
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Old 11-24-2009, 12:15 PM   #69
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Man, they should have just taken this week off for Thanksgiving. Such a filler episode. We all pretty much already knew Samuel killed Joseph, and we knew Sylar was coming back. I think there's still a bit of dead weight characters on this show that could really afford to be gotten rid of; everyone knows how I feel about Mohinder, but I think Angela has more than served her purpose.

I thought it was cool that Sylar used the puppetry ability he got to keep Peter and Angela at the table. Funny how you forget about all the powers he has until he uses them. It totally changes the Sylar/Peter rivalry now that Peter can only have one ability at a time.

It's time for Claire to do something worthwhile and important. The self-discovery and "normal life" thing is getting stale, and I think was a poor excuse to get her to go to the carnival.

A lot of the carnies mentioned "the man from the government" as the guy who killed Joseph...anybody else thinking Danko? Would explain why he had the compass.
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Hey, the government guy might be Danko. Good call. Could be reason why Samuel had Darth Maul slice him up.
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Heroes - cancelled!

http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2010/...nceled-by-nbc/
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Kind of glad. I was looking to stop watching it but felt obliged to keep watching to see where it went.

Always sad when a show ends prematurely in the off-season as it'd be nice to see it wrapped up somehow. Maybe they'll pull a family guy and come back better one day. Although family guy was always good.
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Old 05-14-2010, 07:27 PM   #73
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The rumour right now is that NBC will give them either a 2 hour or 4 hour special to wrap up the show (http://www.deadline.com/2010/05/nbc-...medium=twitter). That seems about right to me.
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Heroes officially cancelled. Bound to happen when you start off with 14.5 million and then have ratings this low.
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There goes my Heroes....
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It had to be done.
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I am glad it is done. Last season was better but the show had run its course.
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Old 05-19-2010, 10:03 PM   #78
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Ugh. I stuck with it, hoping it would turn around. Just another show I invest in and it's gets canceled before a proper send off.

If only there wasn't a writers strike. And if only there were more real epic battle scenes.

Last year was Studio 60. NBC is starting a trend with me I don't like...
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Ugh. I stuck with it, hoping it would turn around. Just another show I invest in and it's gets canceled before a proper send off.

If only there wasn't a writers strike. And if only there were more real epic battle scenes.

Last year was Studio 60. NBC is starting a trend with me I don't like...

What? that was like 3 years ago.
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Definitely feel for the people who were still watching this. News like this makes me glad that I just up and decided to quit watching after one of season 3's many terrible episodes.
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