WEEK 9: STAMPS at ARGOS

[Flickered Flame]

Yes! That was close. I am surprised they didn't try a field goal.

[corporatejay]

hahaha, what an absolute fail on the part of the Argos, 57 yards in a dome while difficult is not impossible, and a hell of a lot better shot than a long bomb.

[Canuck-Hater]

Whats really disturbing is the Stamps barely beat the Argos. Some guys gotta get their ass in gear.

[Erick Estrada]

That's about as bad as you can play in the CFL and still pick up a win. They may have got the win but there are major problems on this team in all areas of the game with the exception of Copeland, Reynolds, and Lewis.

[flame3132]

hahhahahaha 10 loses at home?

[Iggyscoresgoals]

That better have been Amadis last game ever, this guy is a bum like Calvin Bannister was last year, he must go.

We won, but we have a lot of work to do, A LOT>

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

hahaha, what an absolute fail on the part of the Argos, 57 yards in a dome while difficult is not impossible, and a hell of a lot better shot than a long bomb.

I have no problem with the call. If the ball is thrown five yard deeper the Argos win. The Stampeders prevent defense is horrendous and the odd of making the long pass is probably close to the odds of making the 57 yard field goal.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I have no problem with the call. If the ball is thrown five yard deeper the Argos win. The Stampeders prevent defense is horrendous and the odd of making the long pass is probably close to the odds of making the 57 yard field goal.

Fair enough, to be honest, having watched the stamps blow last minute leads two weeks in a row, i was prepared for anything.

[I wanna be like Miikka]

Wow that was close, luckily the Argos are ######ed and didn't go for a FG. I am loving Jermaine Copeland this season, although I really think that sometimes we see the effects of not having Rambo as an additional threat. Any chance he comes back for playoffs or is he done for those too?

[jammies]

A win is a win, and the Argos look a lot better with Pickett throwing the ball instead of Joseph. Have to give credit to the offence getting it in the end zone to give the team a chance to win with under a minute left for the 2nd straight game. Run defence was miles better against a decent running team, too.

I also, as many do, wonder about Cortez though. He involved the run into the offence much more, which was good, but then kept having Burris throw into coverage, which was bad. The Argos have played the same defence all year, so it almost seems like arrogance where he's thinking "I don't care what THEY do, I'm going to force them to react to what I do" - which is great if it works, but 40 minutes into the game is a little late for figuring out that it isn't.

With great slots like Copeland and Lewis, why WOULDN'T you be going underneath the whole game? It worked against the Eskimos, it worked when they finally did it against the Argos, and it'll work against any team if executed well with the players they have. It's almost like Cortez thinks it's too simple and not worthy of his intellect or something. This is an offence where you could run the ball 40% of the time, throw 5-8 yards underneath/screen/cross 40% of the time, and then use the other 20% of plays to try out Cortez's complex schemes. It might not be exciting (although watching Lewis break one for 50 yards certainly was) but it would be effective, and more importantly, consistently effective unlike their current feast or famine offence.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by jammies

A win is a win, and the Argos look a lot better with Pickett throwing the ball instead of Joseph. Have to give credit to the offence getting it in the end zone to give the team a chance to win with under a minute left for the 2nd straight game. Run defence was miles better against a decent running team, too.

I also, as many do, wonder about Cortez though. He involved the run into the offence much more, which was good, but then kept having Burris throw into coverage, which was bad. The Argos have played the same defence all year, so it almost seems like arrogance where he's thinking "I don't care what THEY do, I'm going to force them to react to what I do" - which is great if it works, but 40 minutes into the game is a little late for figuring out that it isn't.

With great slots like Copeland and Lewis, why WOULDN'T you be going underneath the whole game? It worked against the Eskimos, it worked when they finally did it against the Argos, and it'll work against any team if executed well with the players they have. It's almost like Cortez thinks it's too simple and not worthy of his intellect or something. This is an offence where you could run the ball 40% of the time, throw 5-8 yards underneath/screen/cross 40% of the time, and then use the other 20% of plays to try out Cortez's complex schemes. It might not be exciting (although watching Lewis break one for 50 yards certainly was) but it would be effective, and more importantly, consistently effective unlike their current feast or famine offence.

I agree. It's like Cortez isn't satisfied with the simple play to make the 1st down. His extravagant downfield plays are too hit or miss to keep forcing deep throws. Henry's not the most cerebral QB so overcomplicating things further just doesn't make sense. I have to give him credit for one thing though it took him 1/4 of the season but it looks like he may have figured out that teams aren't going to go for the fake on play action if you never run the ball.

[You Need a Thneed]

57 yarder just to tie, then 50/50 shot in OT? There's just as much a chance as someone catching a long bomb to win.

5 seconds left, clock starts on the play being called in? They weren't going to get in a play, then a FG.

Not a great game by the stamps, but the win is good. Build on that for the Edmonton games coming up.

[troutman]

No pressure on Pickett - CGY often rushed only 3 players.

Why did TOR kick a field goal on 3rd and less than 1 in the red zone?

[OzSome]

I missed the first half and didn't get to see the game until 6 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. I was working and no TV at the office. No biggie coz I don't think I missed anything at all with the exception of losing Browner. Whatever happen to him? Run defense looks better and i sure like that Malik Jackson. I always think he is the one that best suited to play on the other outside position opposite Odell Willis. Claybrooks and MLB Tim Johnson looks good on their first game.
On offense, Burris had a bad 1st half and I was actually glad that Toronto scored that first TD. That seems to wake up Burris and their offense because after that TD, Calgary answered back then their offense started moving the ball. Copeland, Thelwell and Lewis had a good game. Copeland had a couple of TD and Lewis could have had a TD himself. Oh yeah, awesome hit on Zeke Moreno by Nik Lewis. I like the other big hit by Dwight Anderson as well on Jamal Robertson.
Just glad the game is over with and Stamps won. I cannot wait the back-to-back Battle of Alberta starting on Labour Day.

[Sly]

2 Turnovers that both led to TD's and we still won. Just shows how bad Toronto is.

[JohnnyFlame]

I've still got the same feeling as when the season started. They arent' making any progress whatsoever. They just don't even remotely like the team from last year. No swagger, no confidence and no execution.

I also have the feeling it's one of those years where you just keep hoping they can find it and never do.

[jammies]

Originally Posted by OzSome

No biggie coz I don't think I missed anything at all with the exception of losing Browner. Whatever happen to him? .

It looked like he caught his foot in the turf and his knee got locked as he went down while making a play. He jogged it off for a few steps after finally getting up, but then went back to limping pretty quick. Hopefully it's just something that can be taped or that might even heal up by Labour Day, although his replacement seemed adequate enough.

[cross16]

Defensivly, that looked more like the team last year. Did a much better job on run defence. If Ryan doesn't put the ball on the turf on the return, I don't see the Argos putting up 20 points. Same with the stupid burris interception.
Jones definetly went in with the gameplan of letting a young QB try and beat them. And give Pickett credit, he played very well. Blitzs by the Stamps were not very complex so they just seem to think they'll stop the run, and let Pickett beat them which he almost did.
Their new d was much better. Malik Jackson as a run stuffer linebacker worked extrememly well, and having more size in the middle was key. got off Blocks far better last night then they have all season. Though i'm a little dissapointed that people starting to talk about Odell Willis. Ever since people wrote about him, he's done very little, althought not have a good rush end opposite him isn't helping.
I was very dissapointed with Cortez and the offensive gameplan. I liked they got Reynolds invovled yes, but at the same time your playing a zone defence, and a darn good one. Why is it it took 3 quarters to rezlie that slants, in cuts, and the odd swing pass is how you move the ball? Not bombs, hitches, and bubble screens. The Argo D is too good to bite on stuff like that. With Better play calling, this game would have been won much earlier.