Tell me there's nothing wrong with America

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by troutman

Are you sure about that? I know a lot of hunters, but none of them have AK-47s.

http://www.albertaregulations.ca/huntingregs/


It is unlawful to

1. set out, use or employ any of the following items for the purpose of hunting big game:
   • ammunition of less than .23 calibre,
   • ammunition that contains non-expanding bullets,
   • an auto-loading firearm that has the capacity to hold more than 5 cartridges in the magazine,
   • a shotgun having a gauge of .410 or less,
   • a shotgun in a bird sanctuary,
   • bait, except as permitted for the hunting of black bears (click here for more information on Black Bear baiting),
   • an arrow other than an authorized arrow (click here for more information on bowhunting),
   • a bow other than an authorized bow (click here for more information on bowhunting),
   • a muzzle-loading firearm of less than .44 calibre,
   • a rifle or shotgun in WMUs 212, 248 or 410 (persons hunting under the authority of a Strathcona White-tailed Deer Licence, a Foothills Deer Licence, or an Antlerless Moose Special Licence in Strathcona County may hunt with a bow and arrow, cross-bow, muzzleloader or shotgun),
   • a trap,
   • a cross-bow and arrow that is not authorized (click here to view Hunting with a Cross-bow)
     

Well.............not here in Canada of course, but they are popular in America.

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Wasn't the spirit of the law that average citizenry should have the right to all the weapons that the state has to prevent extreme forms of oppression of the state? How then could this be satisfied if citizens are only permitted hunting rifles while government entities have assualt rifles? We can argue the validity of whether or not those types of things are outdated or not, but the spirit was to include 'guns' in every sense of the word.

Well if that is the intent, then individuals should have rights to land mines, nuclear weapons, a whole host of weaponry. That would be a liberal constructionist view of the amendment though, something that virtually every Republican candidate for President over the past 40 years would have a problem with, given that they have loudly proclaimed their love for strict constructionalist judges.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

IIRC, it still is a State right, in that it has never been incorporated under the Due Process clause of the 14th amendment. Which means, States do not have to follow the 2nd amendment only the Federal government does.

States were given the right to keep and bear arms, not individuals.

That's what I was saying. I believe the ammendment was written explicitly to grant the States the right to raise militias (still antiquated).

But, if we want to take the literal translation as most do, I agree with you're post.

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

States were given the right to keep and bear arms, not individuals.

That's what I was saying. I believe the ammendment was written explicitly to grant the States the right to raise militias (still antiquated).

But, if we want to take the literal translation as most do, I agree with you're post.

That thought occurred to me right after I posted, haha.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well.............not here in Canada of course, but they are popular in America.

Are they? Really?

I've been involved in hunting and the 'outdoors lifestyle' for 30+ years and I have NEVER seen or heard of someone hunting game with an AK-47. NEVER. I have no doubt it happens, but it is certainly not popular and further it is pretty stupid as it is an inferior weapon to what most people use.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

The Columbine killers did run into the police officer on duty in the school. He had a gun and exchanged fire with the killers. So the situation of someone with a gun being there to protect the students that you state as a hypothetical was a reality and didn't do anything.

Also, high schoolers with guns? You can't be serious.

Of course I didnt mean "lets arm high-school kids"..........I assumed as much. That cop has a bad shot I guess.........

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Are they? Really?

I've been involved in hunting and the 'outdoors lifestyle' for 30+ years and I have NEVER seen or heard of someone hunting game with an AK-47. NEVER. I have no doubt it happens, but it is certainly not popular and further it is pretty stupid as it is an inferior weapon to what most people use.

Well hell, you can you-tube hunting videos with guys using AK-47's. They give them away if you buy a truck in Missouri!!
http://www.infowars.com/missouri-dea...-of-new-truck/

Nice.........

[Weiser Wonder]

The cop probably has a decent shot, but not when firing at people. Unlike the psychopaths he was exchanging fire with, for who people are moving targets and nothing more.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Well hell, you can you-tube hunting videos with guys using AK-47's. They give them away if you buy a truck in Missouri!!
http://www.infowars.com/missouri-dea...-of-new-truck/

Nice.........

That's your evidence that confirms that the practice is popular?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

The cop probably has a decent shot, but not when firing at people. Unlike the psychopaths he was exchanging fire with, for who people are moving targets and nothing more.

I don't think they were firing at too many moving targets unfortunately.

[mikey_the_redneck]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

That's your evidence that confirms that the practice is popular?

I said AK-47's are popular.......not popular for the specific purpose of hunting. I know they are not the best hunting rifles. Some folks use them to shoot Coyotes and what-not.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I said AK-47's are popular.......not popular for the specific purpose of hunting. I know they are not the best hunting rifles. Some folks use them to shoot Coyotes and what-not.

You implied they were popular for hunting in the US. Clearly.

[666DanceParty]

Does anyone even know anyone in Canada with an AK-47??
Been trying to get my hands on one of them for years......

[Azure]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

BBS and I were just discussing this yesterday. In Arizona, it's perfectly legal to take your gun to the bar. Great. A bunch of loaded people carrying loaded guns.

If you think that's a good idea, I can't help you.

Sure there are a lot of responsible gun owners, but there are also a lot of "I'm going to show you the hilt of my Colt 45 if you honk at me in traffic" wing nuts out there.

Its not legal to drink and carry a firearm though. Just a small technicality that most people miss.

[Azure]

In regards to the OP....the guy was within the limit of the law, so lawfully he did nothing wrong.

But come on, to bring a 'gun'....let along an assault rifle to a Presidential Rally is kind of stupid. Scrap that....it is very stupid. I get protesting, I get proving a point....and no I wouldn't ban assault rifles considering it will do NOTHING to curb gun crime, but I do not get what this guy did.

As for the use of an assault rifle. Home defense is the one most often mentioned, but most people I know that own them just like to go to the range and fire them. Is there anything wrong with that? Most of the people who own handguns in Canada just like to go to the range and fire them too....because IIRC, there were only 100 or so licenses given out in Canada that allowed people to carry handguns for self protection.

I'm glad some of you have absolutely no say so in determining gun laws in the United States.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Originally Posted by Azure

Its not legal to drink and carry a firearm though. Just a small technicality that most people miss.

Good thing for the technicalities, since the laws and constitution are so ****ed up.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Good thing for the technicalities, since the laws and constitution are so ****ed up.

I agree.

Especially the part where the Federal Government has completely screwed over what the constitution says about state rights.

[TurnedTheCorner]

Last I saw, states rights involve the right to get your ass handed to you if you secede. Are there more?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by TurnedTheCorner

Last I saw, states rights involve the right to get your ass handed to you if you secede. Are there more?

According to the Federal Government, no.

According to the Constitution, which you so blatantly love, there are lots.

[TurnedTheCorner]

I love the constitution? I missed that part...