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Old 07-14-2009, 02:49 PM   #61
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Ok then, could the success of a few franchises be bad for the corporation, or the national economy?

What about locally? I have heard this on the radio several times- seems like Tim's is getting some free advertizing out of this.

We get it- you don't care about this. That's fine- I also don't care about baseball; which is why I also don't post in the Blue Jays threads.
I actually do care, I get to have Tim's coffee now without traveling to Connecticut, I just don't get the idea that what's good for Tim's is good for Canada. I get the pride angle, I obviously get the having something from home angle, but I don't understand where the jump in logic occurs to make that idea work.
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:12 PM   #62
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Valo, I'm not making money of this expansion into NY but it makes me proud as a Canadian. And now that TH is going to be Canadian owned again, it's a matter of nationalistic pride to want to see them do well. TH is something people can hopefully identify with Canada like the Blackberry, Cirque du Soleil, Hockey, Beer, Snow, Snowboarding, etc.

By the way, these expansions don't always go well. In Brazil, for instance, one of the world's foremost coffee countries, Starbucks has shutdown most of their stores and just like McD or Burger King. The Brazilian culture couldn't accept them taking their local coffee spots away. It works both ways.
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:25 PM   #63
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It's like the pride I felt when I saw a Roots store in Hong Kong, but then the anger I felt when I saw the prices were cheaper there than here
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Old 07-14-2009, 03:43 PM   #64
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Valo, I'm not making money of this expansion into NY but it makes me proud as a Canadian. And now that TH is going to be Canadian owned again, it's a matter of nationalistic pride to want to see them do well. TH is something people can hopefully identify with Canada like the Blackberry, Cirque du Soleil, Hockey, Beer, Snow, Snowboarding, etc.

By the way, these expansions don't always go well. In Brazil, for instance, one of the world's foremost coffee countries, Starbucks has shutdown most of their stores and just like McD or Burger King. The Brazilian culture couldn't accept them taking their local coffee spots away. It works both ways.
I can understand that, I think it's sometimes a bit overboard seeing as these are big corporations owned and operated by people from all over the world, but I get the idea. The Tim's doesn't matter much to me, but the fact that poutine has become popular in NYC has made me incredibly happy.
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Old 07-15-2009, 01:54 PM   #65
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I've been following all the news stories and forum reports from New Yorkers about this, it doesn't look like all the big locations that changed from DD to TH have anything other than the typical coffee/donuts line. There's no soups/sandwiches/chillis, etc. Which puzzles me as that is what they need to differentiate themselves from the usual sandwich shop and to get some of the lunch crowd or just to stand out.
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