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Old 03-06-2009, 11:05 PM   #61
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That's because most of em let it make them finish last. I'm only about 5'7"-5'8" and I've picked up just as much(in some cases more-so, depending on the buddy) than my friends hoverin around and over the 6'0" mark. I think what happens is most short guys allow it to get in their heads and it hurts their confidence. Ok ya if some chick's like 5'10" or somethin, then ya I figure its a lost cause. But really, how many girls are over 5'5"-5'6", like 10%? Who cares? Just be confident about yourself, that's the key to the whole thing.
5-7 5-8 isn't that short. A little below the average maybe, but you're in the fat part of the curve. 5-0 5-1, is another story entirely.
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5-7 5-8 isn't that short. A little below the average maybe, but you're in the fat part of the curve. 5-0 5-1, is another story entirely.
Ahhh ic, you're talkin Danny DeVito short. Ya that's a different can o' worms altogether. Ya I could see that makin things difficult. Although I did have a buddy a few years ago who was no more than 5'0" and his girlfriend was taller than me, and actually kinda hot too. haha I still dont know how he managed to pull that one off.
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:13 PM   #63
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I can't stand the guys with short man syndrome. Along the same line as Sainters7 mentioned, I'm 5'1, 90% of men are taller than me. I could care less if you're 5'5 or 6'5 as long as you are confident, not arrogant or hell bent on overcompensating. While we're at it, the giant trucks that you need a ladder to get in? They're ridiculous. All my girlfriends call them small penis trucks. I really think most girls just want a man who is comfortable being himself. I don't think nice guys finish last. I think spineless guys lacking confidence finish last.
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Old 03-06-2009, 11:17 PM   #64
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nice guys don't finish last, pansies finish last, unfortunately theres alot of nice guys out there who don't realize they're pansies and put the blame on them being nice.
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I can't stand the guys with short man syndrome. Along the same line as Sainters7 mentioned, I'm 5'1, 90% of men are taller than me. I could care less if you're 5'5 or 6'5 as long as you are confident, not arrogant or hell bent on overcompensating. While we're at it, the giant trucks that you need a ladder to get in? They're ridiculous. All my girlfriends call them small penis trucks. I really think most girls just want a man who is comfortable being himself. I don't think nice guys finish last. I think spineless guys lacking confidence finish last.
That's why I roll out in a 1985 Civic CRX.
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Old 03-07-2009, 10:15 AM   #66
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Confidence without cockiness, humor, smiles, and knowing how to treat a lady are the keys to getting with any chick. It doesnt matter what you drive, how much you make ect. If it does the chick isnt worth your time.
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Old 03-07-2009, 11:17 AM   #67
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Nice guys don't finish last, puss y's do.
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Old 03-07-2009, 05:58 PM   #68
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I love this topic...........
To me, a "nice guy" is a guy who is uncomfortable with being his true self, and behaves in an over-the-top nice way to get people to like him. They will always agree with you, they will go out of their way to be extra accomodating etc......
The problem with this attitude is that women view it as a kind of manipulation. It is NOT ATTRACTIVE. They think that the guy is just being nice in order to get something from them (sex and attention obviously). This shows neediness. The guy thinks that if he is nice enough to a certain woman, she will see that and fall in love with them.
When you look at our western culture, you see that "the nice guy" is being fed down our throats from our mothers and the media mostly. How many commercials have you seen where some kid shows up at a girls door with flowers and takes her out to dinner? How many cheesy romantic comedies are out there where some sap proclaims his love for a certain girl and it all works out in the end? How many times have we heard our moms say "be nice to girls"? The problem with this stuff is it gets into our head and causes us to behave in that nice guy way, which does NOT make women attracted to a man.
Nice guy traits are totally emasculating when you think about it. And what are women attracted to? Being a MAN. A man who is confident, has his own opinions, he does not allow people to manipulate him or sway his opinion. A real man is not ashamed of his natural sexual prowess, in fact he is proud of it. Nice guys are the oppisite of this and the results speak for themselves..........
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:27 PM   #69
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Physically attractive people finish above physically unattractive people.

The whole "jerks/bad boys finish first, nice guys finish last" phenomenon arises from the fact that, too often (though not universally), physically attractive people know they're attractive which leads to cockiness/confidence and a lack of willingness to make the effort it often takes to be nice.

Nice guys who are hot have no problems.
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Old 03-07-2009, 07:31 PM   #70
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Physically attractive people finish above physically unattractive people.

The whole "jerks/bad boys finish first, nice guys finish last" phenomenon arises from the fact that, too often (though not universally), physically attractive people know they're attractive which leads to cockiness/confidence and a lack of willingness to make the effort it often takes to be nice.

Nice guys who are hot have no problems.
I agree. As a girl I know I've gotta be really smart and strong to avoid good looking jerks. Remeber that "who do you attract" quiz thread? The same goes the other way..if you attract shallow, vapid models, so what, they're models.
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:08 PM   #71
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Physically attractive people finish above physically unattractive people.

The whole "jerks/bad boys finish first, nice guys finish last" phenomenon arises from the fact that, too often (though not universally), physically attractive people know they're attractive which leads to cockiness/confidence and a lack of willingness to make the effort it often takes to be nice.

Nice guys who are hot have no problems.
I agree absolutely with this, it's unfortunate but true.
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Old 03-07-2009, 08:14 PM   #72
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Physically attractive people finish above physically unattractive people.

The whole "jerks/bad boys finish first, nice guys finish last" phenomenon arises from the fact that, too often (though not universally), physically attractive people know they're attractive which leads to cockiness/confidence and a lack of willingness to make the effort it often takes to be nice.

Nice guys who are hot have no problems.
My sister happened to be one of those physicaly attractive people. She always found it to be a curse. If i guy asked her out she wasn't sure if the guy was actually interested in her or merely lookig for a romp in the sack .
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Old 03-07-2009, 09:03 PM   #73
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See Jarome Iginla















professional athletes and celebrities obviously are an exception to the rule because fame, fortune, and talent seems to trump all those other factors
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Here is a perfect example of a nice guy finishing last, straight from his wife's mouth.

http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationshi...entid=18187579
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Physically attractive people finish above physically unattractive people.


Nice guys who are hot have no problems.
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My sister happened to be one of those physicaly attractive people. She always found it to be a curse. If i guy asked her out she wasn't sure if the guy was actually interested in her or merely lookig for a romp in the sack .
How can I be so cursed?
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Here is a perfect example of a nice guy finishing last, straight from his wife's mouth.

http://lifestyle.msn.com/relationshi...entid=18187579
Doctor Crunch marriage expert recommends the handcuffs, a cattle prod and generous amounts of shockers when she least expects it.
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:53 PM   #78
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I am a nice guy and I always have girls chasing me but that is because I have the bad boy image down pat. I sing in a hard rock band, my arms are covered in tattoos, and I am not shy at all. If you can combine being a nice guy with a bad boy image you should do very well.
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Old 03-11-2009, 01:57 PM   #79
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Old 03-11-2009, 02:12 PM   #80
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You can easily be a nice guy and not finish last. The key is being aloof. Do exactly as women do and make it bloody difficult for them to get into your world, and even when they do elevate to gf status, make subtle signs and gestures that dating you is a priviledge as opposed to a right. I think it comes back to a self-respect thing as opposed to a 'good guy/bad guy' thing. My rule of thumb is never do anything for a woman that you wouldn't do for a best friend (outside of the bedroom of course ). If you stay true to that rule, a girl will never ever think of you as a doormat or an uninteresting 'nice guy.' Simple as that and you don't have to resort to staging run-ins with the law, getting a tatoo, picking fights in bars, or buying a Harley to prove your badboy street cred.
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