Smoking and Why employees get special privileges

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Ethaniel

Obviously a Smoker that likes to not work at his job instead of nose to the grindstone.

Why can't smokers pretend they are on a 4 hour plane ride and just not go.
I don't have a problem with breaks in general, I have a problem when people start taking advantage of them and smoking seems to usually be the culprit. I have the issue when other people (non-smokers) get crapped on with work because said person did not pull their weight because of smoke breaks. It happens all the time and people just look the other way, especially Smokers.

Nope, Non-smoker who thinks people that have nothing better to do than complain about smokers should STFU and get on with their lives.

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Do you have to do more work because they are out smoking?

my almost wife (t-minus 4 months for that one!) had a high school job working at taco bell. her older sister was the manager. she would always be outside smoking and socializing with the other smokers. it was quite ordinary for my fiance to have to bust her butt twice as hard because the smokers were outside being lazy.

fact of the matter is, most everyone here posts from work. so sure, our jobs aren't that hard. but quit building straw man arguments because person X is posting on CP from work. smokers do take advantage of break times, and there are instances where non smokers have to suffer.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

its because like a lot of non smokers they're not organized or lazy when they're working.

Sounds like they are stressed and could use a smoke break...

[Ethaniel]

I do not have to do more work due to smoking, but others have expressed their displeasure to me in regards to this topic. One group on our floor always requires someone to be there at all times of the day. There are 5 people in the group and 3 of them smoke. The supervisor and 2 others consider their smoking time more important than something for a customer. This is a major issue, but the problem is the supervisor is the cause of it. Also this same supervisor is letting the Smoking group get away with more than the rest. Going home early, calling in sick more, etc.

This is not the only occurrence of this i have witnessed and it is unacceptable behavior.

Another point on Smoking was handled by a fellow employee about a boss giving him crap about going to tim hortons for 20 minutes (timed) to get a coffee. This boss smoked and the employee recorded all the time his boss missed for 2 weeks on a chart beside the time he missed. Took it to his boss and has not been bothered about it again and was told he was not allowed to share that chart with anyone else in the company.

The blind Eye that gets turned at companies in regards to smoking is BRUTAL. Once again I don't understand why they are able to waste 1.25 hrs per day smoking when the rest of us can't do that. And what if that same smoking boss doesn't allow you to go on walks just because? What if it actually was special treatment?

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by dobbles

smokers do take advantage of break times, and there are instances where non smokers have to suffer.

There are WAY more instances of lazy people not doing their job properly and hard workers who care about their job having to pick up the slack.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

Sounds like they are stressed and could use a smoke break...

What, sorry I was smoking and playing ping pong

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

A) Theres no laws that smokers get special breaks, the break laws are universal, so if your company gives a 15 minute break in the morning and one in the afternoon then those breaks are available to smokers and non smokers alike.

i find it hard to believe that if the result of my break is to go next door to the pub and grab a beer or head to the private bathroom and release some tension that i will get the same kind of response as asking for a smoke break. smoking is something that is often taken advantage of. even beyond the standard 15 minute breaks every 2 hours bit.

[troutman]

What if an employee wanted four masturbation breaks per day?

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

There are WAY more instances of lazy people not doing their job properly and hard workers who care about their job having to pick up the slack.

i agree totally! but just because people are lazy for other reasons, it doesn't negate the validity of this argument.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by troutman

What if an employee wanted four masturbation breaks per day?

A satisfied employee is a happy employee, or course he's going to need to buy more socks.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by troutman

What if an employee wanted four masturbation breaks per day?

This is abnormal?

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by troutman

What if an employee wanted four masturbation breaks per day?

Can I work for you?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by dobbles

i find it hard to believe that if the result of my break is to go next door to the pub and grab a beer or head to the private bathroom and release some tension that i will get the same kind of response as asking for a smoke break. smoking is something that is often taken advantage of. even beyond the standard 15 minute breaks every 2 hours bit.

you have the right to the break, if you want to go to a pub and grab a beer, thats up to you and your boss and your office policy on drinking.

It has nothing to do with enhanced rights of smokers.

If your office is allowing smokers to go for multiple breaks, then that policy is open to everyone.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

This is abnormal?

I can do that 8 times, because I don't need to leave my desk (private office)

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Ethaniel

I do not have to do more work due to smoking,

So you are complaining about something that doesn't affect you.

If you are a real grindstone type and you are working an hour longer than the smokers every day, soon enough you'll be in a position to fire them all.

[PsYcNeT]

Are people who complain about percieved slights completely sheltered from lifes unfairness, or have they just experienced too much of it?

[dobbles]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

you have the right to the break, if you want to go to a pub and grab a beer, thats up to you and your boss and your office policy on drinking.

It has nothing to do with enhanced rights of smokers.

If your office is allowing smokers to go for multiple breaks, then that policy is open to everyone.

thats great in theory but rarely works that way. thats what i am saying, smokers have long been able to get more time for breaks than others. especially if the boss smokes (as has been noted).

[Ethaniel]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

So you are complaining about something that doesn't affect you.

If you are a real grindstone type and you are working an hour longer than the smokers every day, soon enough you'll be in a position to fire them all.

I agree and I hope to get to that point, but the issue still exists and it is against company policy. Why do they get special privileges?

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by Ethaniel

I agree and I hope to get to that point, but the issue still exists and it is against company policy. Why do they get special privileges?

you should write an anonynous letter to the regional manager.....

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by Ethaniel

I agree and I hope to get to that point, but the issue still exists and it is against company policy. Why do they get special privileges?

Because it's ingrained within our modern society, and society as a whole takes time to change.

That's the easy answer anyway.

The other question is, why do you care so much?