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Old 02-03-2009, 08:57 PM   #61
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If the cheater has factored the probability of getting caught and the potential consequence of getting caught and decided that the risk is worth the reward, I commend that person for having ingenuity and the balls to pull it off. The reality is that you can't get through an entire university degree solely by cheating, you need to put some work in and have some brains, but why not supplement that with a bit of cheating to get you through having to memorize some bullshart formulas in calculus 101?
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:03 PM   #62
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I should perhaps have spent less time in the pool hall and more in class.
I vividly recall studying for my econ exam in The Lazy Owl while hanging out with some 3rd year guys I met in my math class. That likely did me no favours.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:08 PM   #63
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If the cheater has factored the probability of getting caught and the potential consequence of getting caught and decided that the risk is worth the reward, I commend that person for having ingenuity and the balls to pull it off.
Balls or stupidity? It was a 5 person class exam. Not a whole lot of monitoring required.
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Old 02-03-2009, 09:41 PM   #64
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I often thought students should not be allowed to campaign profs in their office for better marks.
Haha, the only reason I made it through my engineering degree was because I knew what all of my profs' favourite drinks were. They saw me at the faculty lounge a heck of a lot more than in class.

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Old 02-03-2009, 10:13 PM   #65
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A guy in my engineering economics class got busted during the final for writing formulas on the inside of his calculator. The prof tossed him, and he had to take the walk of shame out of the gym about 10 minutes into the exam. He was an older guy and probably doing the class for the APEGGA requirement. I wonder what happens in this situation, is he allowed to take the course again or is he just screwed?
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Old 02-03-2009, 11:22 PM   #66
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I went to college for IT. My friend, was a student marker for the 1st year classes. He found it odd that 6 of the programs handed in were all eerily simliar, so he let the instructor know what he found.

A few years later I found out that my co-worker was the guy who wrote the program and his roommate stole the code while my co-worker was out and the roommate distributed it to some friends... they were too stupid to change the work to make it unique. So stupid that not a single one of them thought to change the name to their own.
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I went to college for IT. My friend, was a student marker for the 1st year classes. He found it odd that 6 of the programs handed in were all eerily simliar, so he let the instructor know what he found.

A few years later I found out that my co-worker was the guy who wrote the program and his roommate stole the code while my co-worker was out and the roommate distributed it to some friends... they were too stupid to change the work to make it unique. So stupid that not a single one of them thought to change the name to their own.
I had a TA in second year who claimed someone once turned in his (the TA's) own assignment to him from when he took the course. The guy didn't even change his name and ID# from the comments....
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Haha, the only reason I made it through my engineering degree was because I knew what all of my profs' favourite drinks were. They saw me at the faculty lounge a heck of a lot more than in class.

Everyone tells you it's not what you know, it's who you know. I'm living proof of that.
And when your bridge collapses, do you know where Judges go for drinks?
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I'll tell you what, out of my entire engineering degree, I took one course that was applicable to what I do for a living. And that course has since been cancelled.

If anyone is trusting on their engineering degree to provide them with the necessary information to do their job I expect they will be severely dissapointed. Looking back on my degree it was just to show that I could jump through hoops.
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I'll tell you what, out of my entire engineering degree, I took one course that was applicable to what I do for a living. And that course has since been cancelled.

If anyone is trusting on their engineering degree to provide them with the necessary information to do their job I expect they will be severely dissapointed. Looking back on my degree it was just to show that I could jump through hoops.
as are most degrees, there are only a few that are truely applicable to a real job, lawyers, doctors...maybe indian chief...maybe.....my job has nothing to do with my degree
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People that cheated in that manner would have way more studying to come time for the final exam. When you only do one of 8 assignments for the year, you don't know much come the end of the course. If you do them yourself, you can study quite a bit less because you learned it throughout the year doing assignments.

It is also technically cheating in some courses to look at your friends assignment because you are stuck on a problem. You could either not get the answer, not learn how to do it, and lose the marks like you are supposed to, or you could look at your friends, figure out how it's done, get the marks on your assignment. I stand by the fact you won't do as well in the working world if you are the type of person who chooses the first option.
I fully stand by this. Engineering should teach you the principles of how to understand problems and assess methods of solving them. In industry, you RARELY are required to figure something out on your own, if you do, you're more stupid. I routinely worked on assignments in a group setting. We explained it to each other and the act of teaching it amongst ourselves re-enforced the principles.

I even showed Dr. Smith your old lab (he called it crap because you hadn't documented the code line by line) that I had as a road map for the 68k course. But every once in a while someone asks to borrow your assignment and copies it verbatim. I shared my assignments all the time, but this one time I got a zero because my friend was too lazy to change his wording. I wasn't too impressed.
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If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

All you guys are such sticklers.
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Old 02-04-2009, 12:02 PM   #73
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as are most degrees, there are only a few that are truely applicable to a real job, lawyers, doctors...maybe indian chief...maybe.....my job has nothing to do with my degree
You owe me $7,000...
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