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Old 01-19-2009, 05:29 PM   #61
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Actually I have an idea
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/08/...ry-it-at-home/

Follow the Michael Phelps diet minus the swimming and you will win for sure.
I think that would kill a regular man. There is no way I could consume that much food in a single day, there is even less chance of me hitting the gym after.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:31 PM   #62
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If your plan is to gain 10 pounds of MUSCLE you really have no chance. It's easy to lose 10 pounds in a week or two (might not be healthy), but I don't think it's even possible to gain 10 pounds of muscle in the same time frame.
We'll see. I know that he'll take the healthy approach as well. Part of the deal is that you must also hold your target weight for 6 weeks with bi-weekly weigh-ins.

Even if I lose, it'll turn into "Help me gain 10 lbs".
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:32 PM   #63
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:32 PM   #64
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Actually I have an idea
http://blogs.wsj.com/health/2008/08/...ry-it-at-home/

Follow the Michael Phelps diet minus the swimming and you will win for sure.
Oh god. The thought of that breakfast makes me ill.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:41 PM   #65
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I'm curious why everytime I go off of creatine I lose size, strength and even mental focus? Am I tricking myself into that?

I am not trying to get into an argument on if it works or not because everyone has their opinion, just like any article or study on the internet, but I am dumb founded by the results myself and friends get when taking it.

Watch out HOOT. This is starting to sound pretty familiar.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...+thread&page=4

Start reading at post #63.
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:58 PM   #66
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Well I have no idea of your education, but to suggest your anecdotal evidence somehow superscedes proven, peer-reviewed, repeated scientific studies is beyond laughable.

"Whether it works or not" is not an opinion. The physiological effects of Creatine supplementation are well documented.
Laughable? What's laughable is you dodging my question, why do myself and friends get results from this product that isn't suppose to work?

Have you ever tried creatine or are you just basing your opinions on some articles you have read and opinions of people you have talked to?

If I really wanted to get into this argument I am sure I could find some articles on the internet that have the same results I have personally had with the product. I was asking a serious question, and you gave a joke of an answer...
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:03 PM   #67
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:46 PM   #68
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Going to need over 3000 calories a day. Don't be afraid of carbs, these are what feed the muscle.
Protein is going to recover it. Make sure that you're getting 1g of protein per lb.

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Old 01-19-2009, 10:17 PM   #69
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Atlantic Trap & Gill for All you can eat Fish & Chips on Tuesday....

Make sure you get the Dressing & Gravy as well.....
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Old 01-19-2009, 10:38 PM   #70
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I put on 10 pounds of lean mass (15 pounds total) in 3-4 months. On my 5'8'' frame it looked like a lot.

Here was my diet:

Breakfast: 4 eggs
11:00am: 1/2 six inch sub (turkey or tuna usually) or mcdonalds double cheeseburger
2:00 - 3:00 pm: other half of sub or other Mcdonalds cheeseburger
6:00 -7:00 pm: chicken breast, fruit, milk
workout
Post workout Whey protein shake
9:00-10:00 pm: tuna melt.


This worked to the point people were accusing me of being on roids. Especially at my high school reunion, because I was always the tiny skinny kid. The only downfall was i bought a bunch of clothes before I put on the weight and they no longer fit.

Since you are so much taller I would suggest getting some extra calories in there.

As for the mcdonalds... well if you look at the caloric information the burgers aren't actually that bad for you, and the rest of my meals were lean enough that the extra fat didnt affect me.

I also was pretty undisciplined on the weekends, and if had been more discplined I would have gained more lean mass and faster. IE. I needed to drink less.
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Old 02-05-2009, 07:57 PM   #71
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:28 PM   #72
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Seriously?

Squat and Deadlift like your life depends on it. Both exercises create insane hormone levels.

And drink WHOLE milk. Drink it like your other life depends on it. Drink a gallon per day. I'm dead serious here.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:31 PM   #73
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Update ???????
Weighing in consistently north of 164 for the past few days. The other guy is only down to 197.

Been eating about 2500-3000 calories a day (>3000 is hard!). Incorporating lots of squats and deadlifts into the workouts.

I'm going to kill him at this.
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Old 02-05-2009, 10:35 PM   #74
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Eat more.

Eat way, way, way more. And drink whole milk.

Also, are you going heavy with your squats/deads? Make sure you're constantly targeting your 1RM every workout. Get lots of sleep too.
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Old 02-05-2009, 11:15 PM   #75
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Here is a look at my diet. 3700 calories.

1. Breakfast 10:00AM
Oatmeal with protein and berries
3 Eggs
Banana
Cup of Milk

710 Calories, 81 carbs, 72 pro, 20 fat, 63 protein

2. Snack 12:00PM
Handful of Almonds
Apple

243 Calories, 32 carbs, 16 fat

3. Lunch 2:00PM
Pasta
Brown Rice
Cup of Milk
900 Calories, 249 carbs, 9 pro

4. Snack 4:00PM
PB Sandwich
250 Calories, 32 carbs, 9 protein, 10 fat

5. Post workout 6:00PM
2 Chicken Breasts
Potatoes
Protein Shake
680 Calories, 40 carbs, 109 pro

6. Dinner/Snack 8:00PM
Pasta
Rice
Cup of Milk
920 Calories, 169 carbs, 24 pro
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Old 02-06-2009, 02:56 AM   #76
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Try to get at least 1.5X-2X grams of protein per pound of bodyweight per day. In addition, make sure your calorie intake is high as well. There are certain training methods in the gym that you can do to ensure a mass bulk phase. Lots of compound movements(Squats, deadlifts, etc). Once that gets stagnant, pre exhaust, drop sets, pyramids...etc.

If you are using creatine, its best to be used with a transport system of some sort. A cost effective way is to go buy malodextrin(sugar) and mix it together with the creatine and some flavoring.

I usually do a bulk phase once a year, and if done right, you can get great results.
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Old 02-06-2009, 03:39 AM   #77
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For a snack eat nachos with cheese sauce, salsa, chicken, gravy, grated cheese, beef, oats, tuna, peanut butter, with some lasagna in it. Then put it all in the deepfryer. Take it out and consume. Surely that'll give you some extra calories?
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:47 AM   #79
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For a snack eat nachos with cheese sauce, salsa, chicken, gravy, grated cheese, beef, oats, tuna, peanut butter, with some lasagna in it. Then put it all in the deepfryer. Take it out and consume. Surely that'll give you some extra calories?
That just sounds delicious regardless of the goal in mind.
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Old 02-06-2009, 08:53 AM   #80
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No comparison, you could gain that in 2 weeks, he will be lucky to lose that in 5.
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