Family Sues American Airlines Over Peanut-Free Flight

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

######s take the short bus, lets do something like that... Make bubble kids eat in another room or go to a special bubble school. They can have soy and tofu to their weak little hearts content. They can pump the stuff they put in puffers through the air and then we can send the Asthma kids there too.













(and the award for most ignorant statement ever goes to...)

Handicapped people are ######s?

You sure have a lot ot learn.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by The Ditch

Same question to you as I asked the last person I quoted. Should this "too bad" attitude be applied to handicapped people as well?

Has it come to the point where you won't accept a very minor inconvenience to help someone not die?

Help them "not die"? Are we being a little melodramatic here? Would inhaling "peanut dust" actually kill this person?

Considering he survived Peanut Death Flight 3000, maybe it's not quite so dire after all.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Help them "not die"? Are we being a little melodramatic here? Would inhaling "peanut dust" actually kill this person?

Educate yourself dude.

Life-threatening food allergies (most commonly to nuts, peanuts, or shellfish) can kill children in two ways. The first is called laryngospasm. As the food is swallowed, it produces immediate swelling that spreads to the vocal cords. If the vocal cords swell shut, the child is unable to breathe and dies with terrifying rapidity. The second mechanism is called anaphylactic shock. The child swallows and digests the food and, as long as two hours later, goes into shock and dies.

http://www.drgreene.com/21_1154.html

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Dion

Handicapped people are ######s?

You sure have a lot ot learn.

They get special buses as well. And better parking spots. And ramps. I want a ramp.

[The Ditch]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Help them "not die"? Are we being a little melodramatic here? Would inhaling "peanut dust" actually kill this person?

Depending on the severity of the allergy it certainly could. At 40 000 feet there isn't much you're going to be able to do either to help, an EpiPen will only stop the attack for a short time. Who knows how it could have turned out.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

They get special buses as well. And better parking spots. And ramps. I want a ramp.

The term "######s" are an insult to those who are handicapped.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by The Ditch

Same question to you as I asked the last person I quoted. Should this "too bad" attitude be applied to handicapped people as well?

Has it come to the point where you won't accept a very minor inconvenience to help someone not die?

Part of having an allergy is that you adjust your lifestyle to minimize risks. Everyone warns you that you may be exposed to peanuts these days. If you have such an allergy, it is your responsibility to not put yourself in a situation where you might suffer a reaction. It is not mine.

Now, at least the Newsday story indicates the mother made inquiries before hand. That at least earns her a bit more sympathy than I was willing to give based on the first story. However, AA's rebuttal makes it clear that they will not guarantee that no peanuts will be found on their planes.

If several people representing AA made promises that weren't kept, then certainly, an apology is in order, along with a review of how the airline handles such requests.

But I'm sorry, suing over some non-existent civil right because you expect the rest of the world to change to suit your needs is ridiculous.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

So, if I wanted to bring on a bag of peanuts from home, is the Airline supposed to deprive me of them because someone else asked for special treatment?

The parents never requested that the flight have no traces of peanuts.
They requested the airline not walk around handing out peanuts to everyone.

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

What if a person is hypoglycemic or whatever, and has an attack, and I pull out the peanuts to give to that person so they don't die? Who has the rights now?

That's a rather bizarre hypothetical. I suppose the answer to that is the same as above, the parents had no expectation that people who wanted (needed?) to bring peanuts aboard would be stopped.

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

The airline never should have said they could make the flight peanut free - because they couldn't. The gate agent will probably get canned for saying otherwise. The parents should wake up and realize the world isn't going to adapt to their son's condition - and it is futile to attempt to attempt to make it do so.

Which is why the airline is at fault.

I would be with you if the airline said "we can't make that promise" - and the parents sued saying the airline had to accommodate. But that's just not the case.

[J pold]

I have a very rare and potentially fatal allergy that effects my life in a lot of ways, and while I could expect everyone too accommodate me and sacrifice certain things I would never expect that, if I where faced with a situation where I could have a reaction I wouldn’t expect everyone involved to have to change there lives to accommodate me I would just avoid that situation

[The Fonz]

I'd take great joy if some of the posters in this thread developed a severe peanut allergy.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Part of having an allergy is that you adjust your lifestyle to minimize risks. Everyone warns you that you may be exposed to peanuts these days. If you have such an allergy, it is your responsibility to not put yourself in a situation where you might suffer a reaction. It is not mine.

Children who have to go to school and adults in the workplace with these allergies have to coexist with the rest of us. It's self centered thinking to say it's not your problem.

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Dion

The term "######s" are an insult to those who are handicapped.

Is an insult...

[MelBridgeman]

Originally Posted by Gozer

The parents never requested that the flight have no traces of peanuts.
They requested the airline not walk around handing out peanuts to everyone.




That's a rather bizarre hypothetical. I suppose the answer to that is the same as above, the parents had no expectation that people who wanted (needed?) to bring peanuts aboard would be stopped.



Which is why the airline is at fault.

I would be with you if the airline said "we can't make that promise" - and the parents sued saying the airline had to accommodate. But that's just not the case.

At this point we don't know for sure if any employee guaranteed this. Anyways it also states that if they won they would be donate the money to there lobby group called FAAN.
The whole thing seems kinda fishy
What i mean by that is chances are when its all said in done, AA will ban peanuts from there flights, which is what i suspect the family and FAAN really want out of this.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

Is an insult...

Yes it is. I volunteer my time with the Special Olympics. Both the adults and children in this prorgam, plus the society itself consider it an insult.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Dion

Educate yourself dude.

Life-threatening food allergies (most commonly to nuts, peanuts, or shellfish) can kill children in two ways. The first is called laryngospasm. As the food is swallowed, it produces immediate swelling that spreads to the vocal cords. If the vocal cords swell shut, the child is unable to breathe and dies with terrifying rapidity. The second mechanism is called anaphylactic shock. The child swallows and digests the food and, as long as two hours later, goes into shock and dies.

http://www.drgreene.com/21_1154.html

Thanks for the education, but I'm aware of the fact that allergies can potentially kill people.

I was asking about this kid in particular though. He didn't die, did he?

The fact that his parents took him on the flight and that he managed to struggle through the ordeal without incident tells me that this is a frivolous lawsuit and his parents are looking out first and foremost for the well-being of their chequing account.

[The Ditch]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Thanks for the education, but I'm aware of the fact that allergies can potentially kill people.

I was asking about this kid in particular though. He didn't die, did he?

The fact that his parents took him on the flight and that he managed to struggle through the ordeal without incident tells me that this is a frivolous lawsuit and his parents are looking out first and foremost for the well-being of their chequing account.

They said they were going to donate their money to this place. So unless they are on the board, they probably wouldn't see much of the money.

http://www.foodallergy.org/

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Dion

Yes it is. I volunteer my time with the Special Olympics. Both the adults and children in this prorgam, plus the society itself consider it an insult.

ROFLMAO. I was pointing out a grammatical error. I added a comment at the bottom of the post that indicated I knew it was an ignorant statement and you are still getting all bent out of shape. This is a ton of fun. Thanks.

I am so proud of you volunteering your time, how is the air on your high horse?

[BCReefer]

As a father of 2 kids in school which is peanut free I am first was a little pissed that they could not take PB sandwiches to school since I thought that I am tired of making changes to accommodate single people. Enough is enough I said.

But then I realized that today my kids don’t have allergies what about tomorrow or what if it is my future grand kids. This does not affect me in any way and it is not hard to find food that does not contain nuts. There are even snacks with “No Nuts” on it so I buy those items.

At work there is a scent free policy, again I thought what a pain for only a few people, but then I am not those few and I don’t run the risk of having to take a needle should I have an issue. I needed to open my mind to look at it from their point of view. It is not hard to not wear any scent nor is it really hard not to give your kids peanuts for lunch.

I must admit that not every single item is nut free as there seems to be traces of nuts in everything these days but I do my best.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by The Ditch

They said they were going to donate their money to this place. So unless they are on the board, they probably wouldn't see much of the money.

http://www.foodallergy.org/

Okay, well fair enough. It is still frivolous though.

I posted a link earlier that discussed FAAN's activities. Here it is again.

http://www.harpers.org/media/slidesh...-01/index.html

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

At this point we don't know for sure if any employee guaranteed this. Anyways it also states that if they won they would be donate the money to there lobby group called FAAN.
The whole thing seems kinda fishy

If you think the parents are lying, so be it. Doesn't sound like that's your argument though, just a nice path to backtrack on.

FAAN's purpose:
To be a world leader in food allergy and anaphylaxis awareness and the issues surrounding this disease.

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

What i mean by that is chances are when its all said in done, AA will ban peanuts from there flights, which is what i suspect the family and FAAN really want out of this.

The parents want their "no peanuts served" flight to not serve peanuts. That comment seems like needless vilification.