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Old 05-30-2008, 04:01 PM   #61
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That's kind of what I was thinking. If these people were unaware of any life outside their environment, and they suddently saw this helicoptor in the sky coming towards them, they could be at risk of having some type of existential meltdown. How would it affect them psychologically to suddenly find out that there is this completely huge other world out there, with people living in ways that they've never even thought of or could comprehend.

Unless they had exposure to helicopters before... they may still drawing frantically about this on amazonstick.cave

But I would agree... if this tribe is not a hoax, or not just people who went to live off the land, I'd be in favor of the "prime directive" and would agree "our" impact on them should be limited or none.

Anyone find this on google earth yet?

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Old 05-30-2008, 04:17 PM   #62
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I dunno if I'd go that far, they were probably just thinking about how many weeks that shiny bird would feed them for. The black colored one looks like he'd be overjoyed to learn about recent developments in the toilet paper field.

EDIT: Also, speaking of primitive technology, what kind of camera were these people using to take these pictures?

EDIT2: Wow, there are orange guys too. This really is the lost Flames tribe.
It is kinda blurry.
Who knows maybe this is a tribe of aliens or sasquatches.
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:21 PM   #63
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http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/20...725981-ap.html

Anthropologists have known about the group for some 20 years but released the images now to call attention to fast-encroaching development near the Indians' home in the dense jungles near Peru.

Meirelles told The Associated Press in a phone interview that anthropologists know next to nothing about the group, but suspect it is related to the Tano and Aruak tribes.

Brazil's National Indian Foundation believes there may be as many as 68 "uncontacted" groups around Brazil, although only 24 have been officially confirmed.

Anthropologists say almost all of these tribes know about western civilization and have sporadic contact with prospectors, rubber tappers and loggers, but choose to turn their backs on civilization, usually because they have been attacked.

"It's a choice they made to remain isolated or maintain only occasional contacts, but these tribes usually obtain some modern goods through trading with other Indians," said Bernardo Beronde, an anthropologist who works in the region.

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Old 05-30-2008, 05:32 PM   #64
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Old 05-30-2008, 05:40 PM   #65
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:13 PM   #66
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hehe...i wonder which was the first one to say:

'I, for one, welcome our new giant bird overlords'
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:19 PM   #67
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thats cool. the red mile amazon style.

next thing you know they'll want an overpass, mayor dave will bitch for more money, and more people will gripe about the heathens in the suburbs.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:48 PM   #68
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Those pictures remind me of like a big foot spotting..
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Old 05-30-2008, 08:22 PM   #69
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Well yeah, ignorance is bliss... but does that make it better?
Maybe, what makes our lifestyle "better"? Have you ever lived completely free of technology? Does our technology and structure really ensure we are living a better life? Don't get me wrong I love technology and toys as much as the next guy but I often wonder what life would be like simply living to survive...
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I find it interesting that even remote jungle natives find it necessary to cover their junk.
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Old 05-30-2008, 11:29 PM   #71
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Maybe, what makes our lifestyle "better"? Have you ever lived completely free of technology? Does our technology and structure really ensure we are living a better life? Don't get me wrong I love technology and toys as much as the next guy but I often wonder what life would be like simply living to survive...
Not completely, but I've been camping... and I prefer living with more technology rather than less.
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:38 AM   #72
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I find it incredibly fascinating that these people are still living the hunter gatherer life-style hundreds of years after the Olmecs, Aztecs, Mayans and Inca's.
(all complex societies)
I am not totally sure, but i would also assume that these tribesman have not developed Astronomy, Calendrical systems, Heiroglyphic writing and complex forms of math.(used by aztecs and mayans etc.)

Most of their lifestyle is probably based on where they are located but it still feels a little bizarre to me!
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I find it incredibly fascinating that these people are still living the hunter gatherer life-style hundreds of years after the Olmecs, Aztecs, Mayans and Inca's.
(all complex societies)
I am not totally sure, but i would also assume that these tribesman have not developed Astronomy, Calendrical systems, Heiroglyphic writing and complex forms of math.(used by aztecs and mayans etc.)

Most of their lifestyle is probably based on where they are located but it still feels a little bizarre to me!
I kinda got a feeling this whole body paint thing is just a hoax by them. When helicopters aren't flying around they probably break out the BBQ's and TV's then play some XBOX.
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Not completely, but I've been camping... and I prefer living with more technology rather than less.
You've also been living with more technology all your life then less (none).
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Old 05-31-2008, 10:36 AM   #75
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It's difficult for people to get up and change either way. We live with technology, it's tough for most of us to give it up. These people don't have the things we do, but if we were to give them to them, it doesn't necessarialy mean that they will take it up and live a "better" life all of a sudden.

We're shaped by our environment. Pulling these people out of there is a drastic change. Especially if they have no knowledge of the outside world. I'd say it would probably be easier for us to go into something like that than for them to come out of it, just due to the shock value.

It is very interesting for sure, and it's kind of refreshing to know that there are still people out there like this. In this case, Ignorance is Bliss in my opinion.
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Old 05-31-2008, 11:51 AM   #76
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For a interesting comparison...look at the Inuit of Northern Canada...50 years ago many of them lived a lifestyle that was largely free of western technology and values...today they are struggling to incorporate these 'values' into their culture and are suffering some hardcore culture shock...

Going from stone age to information age in a generation is a shock to the system for sure...
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I love camping the first night...until you start getting dirty and have the pleasure of taking a dump while sitting 2 feet above a steaming fly infested pit of 10,000 previous drunken splattery beer and hot dog, bowel juice evacuating hellcraps.
That's an image I could happily have lived my whole life never contemplating.... thanks...
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I find it incredibly fascinating that these people are still living the hunter gatherer life-style hundreds of years after the Olmecs, Aztecs, Mayans and Inca's.
(all complex societies)
I am not totally sure, but i would also assume that these tribesman have not developed Astronomy, Calendrical systems, Heiroglyphic writing and complex forms of math.(used by aztecs and mayans etc.)

Most of their lifestyle is probably based on where they are located but it still feels a little bizarre to me!
Consider it like genetics. The more isolated the population, the less likely it is that mutations from the outside come in (including societal mutations if you will) as such those pockets can stasgnate or mutate in different ways. The more contact a group has with other groups, the faster that the changes in the broader population are transmitted.
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Old 05-31-2008, 01:38 PM   #79
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The myth that people lived better lives before technology is perniciously influential; the fact (as attested by studies of groups making that transition out of this state) is that violence in such societies is endemic, life expectancies are short, and women are little more than chattel.
This is why I'm crossing the border into Brazil to find a woman. Alberta women are soooo unapproachable.

Seriously though, it is amazing that there are still people living this way, although given the size and remoteness of the area isn't all that surprising. I hope they are able to maintain their way of life, and that civilization doesn't encroach on them, however that may not be possible the way the modern world gobbles up natural resources.
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Old 06-23-2008, 09:05 AM   #80
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008...feed=worldnews
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599...-23109,00.html

THE man behind photos of warriors from an "undiscovered" Amazon tribe that were beamed around the world has admitted it was a publicity stunt aimed at raising awareness of logging.

Indigenous tribes expert, José Carlos Meirelles, said the tribe had been known of since 1910, and had been photographed to prove that they still existed in an area endangered by logging, The Guardian reported.
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