Yappy Dogs

[4X4]

All dog lovers should read Me and Marlee. It gets pretty mushy at times, but the stories he relates about his dog are just hilarious. Easy read (except the part that makes you cry).

edit* Great pics in this thread. Soooo cute. Damn I miss my dog but I do get her for the month of May. She'll be our mascot at slo-pitch.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

*** The one person that ever tried to force me into using a leash (like it was any of their business) got up in my face, and then had me ream him like he probably hadn't had it in 20 years. Funny thing is that my dog was barking at him the whole time too. Double barrell!

You don't use a leash?

[DementedReality]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

You don't use a leash?

probably one of those arrogant dog owners who not only think "their" dog doesnt bite, but also that they are a such a superb owner that they have trained them perfectly.

look, if you are going to own a mongrel, at least put a leash on it. i dont want your dog sniffing me or coming anywhere near me.

for those of your responsible dog owners who leash your pet, thanks. for the others, you think you are special, but you are not. leash the bitch.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

You don't use a leash?

Nope. Never. Never had to. Even once.

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by DementedReality

probably one of those arrogant dog owners who not only think "their" dog doesnt bite, but also that they are a such a superb owner that they have trained them perfectly.

look, if you are going to own a mongrel, at least put a leash on it. i dont want your dog sniffing me or coming anywhere near me.

for those of your responsible dog owners who leash your pet, thanks. for the others, you think you are special, but you are not. leash the bitch.

- My dog did not bite anyone, ever.
- My dog did not aggresively approach people, other animals, or children unless invited.

Leash the bitch? Someone ought to leash you.

[4X4]

A muzzle might be better for him.

[Dope-AS-Fack]

annoying but serve a purpose, may not be able to protect you but there a good house alarm

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Nope. Never. Never had to. Even once.

Okay, so no leash and your dog barked at everything that went by and you figure "big deal".

I can appreciate people love their dogs and all that, but really, everyone else doesn't love your dog quite as much as you do.

Being barked at every day by a dog is annoying to both the barkee and the neighbours who have to hear it. I might not waste my time going up to your door and griping about it, but it would bug me and I'd consider it rather un-neighbourly.

Your dog may not have "aggressively" approached people but if he approached people, they didn't all know he wasn't aggressive.

Your dog's comfort (his ability to bark at people and you don't care, going without a leash) is not as important as the comfort of the people he's barking at or making uncomfortable because he's not on a leash.

[4X4]

Ah, this leash debate needs a little bit of grey installed. You guys are arguing in black and white. In Trad's mind his docile dog is one of those carefree goofy dogs that just meander along totally unconcerned with the world.
In Rouge's mind it may be a larger dog that could schitz at any moment.

I don't know what kind of dog he has, but I have known dogs that are the type that simply don't require leashes. They happily (lazily) wander along beside their owner and don't bat an eye at a bunny or a snake or an engine backfiring. Take it with a grain of salt.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Ah, this leash debate needs a little bit of grey installed. You guys are arguing in black and white. In Trad's mind his docile dog is one of those carefree goofy dogs that just meander along totally unconcerned with the world.
In Rouge's mind it may be a larger dog that could schitz at any moment.

Kind of, but not really. I'm not really concerned about your average dog going crazy and just biting a stranger. I used to live with one of those carefree, harmless, goofy dogs that could go without a leash and couldn't for the life of me figure out why people didn't appreciate his company, or would cross the street or do some funky dance to keep me between them and the dog.

If you spend time with people, children in particular, who aren't fond of dogs then that harmless goofy dog is going to cause them some serious issues, such as crying and scratching as they climb up the nearest person and pretty much ruining what was a good old time before the unleashed pooch showed up.

I'm not worried about a dog biting, what I'm thinking of is the dog scaring someone, even if it is an irrational fear.

I wouldn't sneak up behind anyone's dog and scare the hell out of it with a foghorn and then say "it's harmless, it's just a foghorn" but I've been out with tykes and some guy walks along with his dog and they go nuts and he shrugs his shoulders and says "he's harmless" like that absolves him of any responsibility.

[Traditional_Ale]

In 4X4's case, he has a dog renowned for its agressivness but is totally at ease leaving it to care for children! I had neighbours who had a rotty with three kids under four who would poke it in the eyes! It didn't even blink!

Hell, being barked at can be annoying. But so is rush hour, tax season, computer viruses, hip-hop, Canucks Hockey, and how this age old argument stays age old.

They're all facts of life. Barking doesn't hurt you, cost you money, time, brains, or dignity.

Also, I should make it clear that it's not like I took my 110 pound, 4% body-fat golden retriever to an elementary schoolyard at lunch at set him loose! I'm talking about being able to go backpacking, or the off-leash park, or even fish creek park and not worry about it.

Rouge makes A GREAT POINT about children though. I can certainly respect being wary of unknown large animals around my kids who dont like them. The thing is that my dog would never come close unless called. He would let my parents lap dog (whom he could of swallowed whole) "fight" him, and he would even roll onto his back to make it all the better. It was hilarious.

Gentle giant. His bark said "Hey, look at me! Come show me some love!"

not

"I'm going to eat you."

[Traditional_Ale]

Originally Posted by 4X4

A muzzle might be better for him.

He probably pissed off some neighbours dog as a child and got bit. I bet the dog was totally normal too, and he just had it coming.

[OilersBaby]

i have a jack russell and he's not yappy unless he hears someone on the porch or near the front door or garage. then he barks. he's a good watchdog in the sense that he wouldnt really seem threatening if someone broke in, but he's good at making sure im aware if something is "off". He's not so helpful during earthquakes though..during the one in October, he seemed more nervous than my brother who was visiting Poor lil doggy

[BuzzardsWife]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

So....when your kids won't stop screaming are you going to debark them too?

Just because something is not human, and their "voice" of no direct benefit to you DOES NOT give you the right to "debark" them for your own convinience and reputation.

It is mutilation. In nature, dogs need their voices to survive. They are pack animals that communicate vocally. With other dogs, or with humans.

I really thought this argument was over, because its never going to be resolved.

Another freak comparing the value of a dog to that of a human child. Are you sure this isn't my brother?

[stang]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Ah, this leash debate needs a little bit of grey installed. You guys are arguing in black and white. In Trad's mind his docile dog is one of those carefree goofy dogs that just meander along totally unconcerned with the world.
In Rouge's mind it may be a larger dog that could schitz at any moment.

My dog for for 95% of the time is not tied up/fenced in. But I live on an acerage. He stays beside me whenever we leave the acerage and will sit in the back of a truck and wait for me. When we go camping he isnt on the leash at all while we are at the capsite. He either comes sits near someone for some petting or sleeps under my truck.

However, if we are going into town to go for a walk with my sisters and their kids, or if we are camping and going to the beach. He goes on the leash. He like people and will try and get some petting from anyone within 20 feet of him. I know if some 80 pound dog cam running up to my child I would freak, just because you dont know if it friendly or not. Therefore I wont let my dog do it to others either.

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

In 4X4's case, he has a dog renowned for its agressivness but is totally at ease leaving it to care for children! I had neighbours who had a rotty with three kids under four who would poke it in the eyes! It didn't even blink!

My dogs like that. However I think my dog has more Husky then Rotty...

[simonsays]

Originally Posted by BuzzardsWife

Another freak comparing the value of a dog to that of a human child. Are you sure this isn't my brother?

Not just to a child.

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Leash the bitch? Someone ought to leash you. & So....when your kids won't stop screaming are you going to debark them too? & I'll want to de-bark you for such a rediculous post.

I understand that you love your dog, but dogs aren't people. And the fact that you love your unleashed and admittedly yappy dog doesn't mean that everyone else does.

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Gentle giant. His bark said "Hey, look at me! Come show me some love!" not "I'm going to eat you."

Awesome. But A) if I'm a stranger how am I supposed to know that? and B) if I'm a neighbor why should I care?

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

It is mutilation. In nature, dogs need their voices to survive. They are pack animals that communicate vocally. With other dogs, or with humans.

We aren't talking about wild pack dogs here. We're talking about pets. There are very few instances involving domesticated city dwelling dogs that require them barking. How about de-clawing house cats, is that also mutilation? What about just cutting their nails from time to time? I mean in the wild, cats need those claws to be effective hunters.

There are obviously good dog owners and bad owners, just as there are good and bad dogs. Some dogs are awesome and are great to hang out with, others need either better training or failing that need to be de-barked.

[BuzzardsWife]

Originally Posted by stang

My dog for for 95% of the time is not tied up/fenced in. But I live on an acerage. He stays beside me whenever we leave the acerage and will sit in the back of a truck and wait for me. When we go camping he isnt on the leash at all while we are at the capsite. He either comes sits near someone for some petting or sleeps under my truck.

However, if we are going into town to go for a walk with my sisters and their kids, or if we are camping and going to the beach. He goes on the leash. He like people and will try and get some petting from anyone within 20 feet of him. I know if some 80 pound dog cam running up to my child I would freak, just because you dont know if it friendly or not. Therefore I wont let my dog do it to others either.



My dogs like that. However I think my dog has more Husky then Rotty...

Stang I think how you handle your dog reflects your morals and your respect for others. You sound like the perfect dog owner, and probably an all round decent person.

[stang]

Originally Posted by BuzzardsWife

Stang I think how you handle your dog reflects your morals and your respect for others. You sound like the perfect dog owner, and probably an all round decent person.

I wouldnt go that far... I cheer for the Oilers. lol

Anyways I love animals, and we have always had at least a dog while we were growing up. The reason I bought an acerage was so I could get a couple dogs and let them have room to enjoy.

[shane_c]

Originally Posted by stang

The reason I bought an acerage was so I could get a couple dogs and let them have room to enjoy.

That was one of the reasons we left Calgary and moved back east. So the dogs could have the life they deserve and get away from the non existent yard they had out there.

So my whole reason for starting the thread is because now we're out in the country on 2 acres. For the most part it's very quiet and the only noise is the birds, squirells and owls. Then Yappy comes out and wrecks it all! If we're out in the yard he stands there barking at us, if a car drives down the road he barks, if the kids from over there are in the yard he's yapping at them even though it's his family, etc..... Luckily he's not out all the time but were worried that once summer comes he'll be out a lot more and our peace and quiet will be gone. They have 2 small dogs over there but one is worse than the other. I often here the kids yelling at it to shut up. I honestly don't know how someone could live with them and have to hear that day in day out.