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Old 03-13-2008, 11:18 AM   #61
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Pink Floyd is the biggest pile of garbage I've ever heard (IMO). The Wall pt 2 is the only song I can even stand to listen to.
I think Pink Floyd might be right up there for biggest collection of misfit geniuses and egos. They're music is brilliant.
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:19 AM   #62
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To all the AC/DC fans - why did they put "Shook me all night long" on two different albums Back in Black and Who Made Who? I never understood that move?
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:23 AM   #63
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Since Nickelback is the poster boy for bad music to the vocal minority/majority (who knows which) on this site, can the self proclaimed defenders of good taste explain to me what is formulaic or just plain awful about these songs:

Breathe
Leader Of Men
Old Enough
I think of myself as a music snob. Those songs you listed are GOOD rock songs. They were relatively unknown at the time, and CanCon made those songs hits. Then Silver Side Up happened. It was...bad. Very commercial, not very interesting: a step back from where they were. And of course, tons of people ate it up.

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Pink Floyd is the biggest pile of garbage I've ever heard (IMO). The Wall pt 2 is the only song I can even stand to listen to.
Funny, many Floyd fans (myself being one) will name that song among Floyd's weakest output. I mean, it's a fataing disco song!
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:26 AM   #64
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To all the AC/DC fans - why did they put "Shook me all night long" on two different albums Back in Black and Who Made Who? I never understood that move?
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Who Made Who is a hard rock album by Australian band AC/DC, released in 1986 as the soundtrack to the Stephen King movie Maximum Overdrive. King would allude to the album's title song in the 1990 revised and expanded edition of his novel The Stand, where a survivor of the novel's flu pandemic changes the lyrics to "Who Made Flu." Three tracks on the album — "Who Made Who" and the instrumentals "D.T." and "Chase the Ace" — were newly written and recorded by AC/DC. The rest were taken from the band's previous albums.
So it isn't really a regular studio album, per se.
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:31 AM   #65
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Funny, many Floyd fans (myself being one) will name that song among Floyd's weakest output. I mean, it's a fataing disco song!
Granted my Pink Floyd exposure has been limited to the Radio - but I can tell you that "money" is probably one of the worst songs I've ever listened to.
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Old 03-13-2008, 11:39 AM   #66
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Granted my Pink Floyd exposure has been limited to the Radio - but I can tell you that "money" is probably one of the worst songs I've ever listened to.
We all have our own tastes, some go against the majority

Like me…for the life of me I can’t understand why Led Zeppelin gets so much credit

To me they are a very average band…not bad not great
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:10 PM   #67
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Granted my Pink Floyd exposure has been limited to the Radio - but I can tell you that "money" is probably one of the worst songs I've ever listened to.
"Money" is a pretty irritating song, and the whole album "Dark Side of the Moon" is IMO vastly overrated. It's not bad, but wears out quickly. "The Wall" has a lot of good stuff in it, but I rarely find myself listening to the whole thing. (The movie however is great, propably the best rock movie ever. I also watch it regurarly, which is one of the reasons I don't really need the album.)

But generally speaking, Pink Floyd rules. It's just one of those bands that if you only limit yourself to the radio tracks, you'll actually get a really weird an distorted view of the band. Radios don't generally play instrumentals or songs that are over four minutes, and most of the best Floyd songs are over five minutes, with little or no chorus, and some can be over ten minutes. I know that sounds horrible, but this is not your average seventies prog-rock crap, this is the good stuff.

If you haven't heard the whole "Wish You Were Here" album, you should not judge.

I'll propably also get a lot of flack for this from Floyd fans, but I can actually recommend the collection album "Echoes". For a fan it's kind of a weird experience as Floyd is an album band if there ever was one, but Echoes works surprisingly well.
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:46 PM   #68
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Even the most pretentious snob wouldn't say the Beatles or Radiohead make crappy music.
You haven't met pretentious enough snobs, then.

http://catandgirl.com/view.php?loc=566

There's an entire subculture where things aren't cool, it's hating things that are cool that is cool. The cooler the thing you hate, obviously the more cool you are. It's unspoken, obviously, that anything that isn't cool is also hated but why deign to even mention that?

Radiohead and, in particular, The Beatles, are popular enough that there are vast swaths of people that are going to hate them.

I've known people that like bands until the minute ANYONE else mentions them. Don't think I'm exaggerating.
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Old 03-13-2008, 01:51 PM   #69
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I've known people that like bands until the minute ANYONE else mentions them. Don't think I'm exaggerating.
That happened to me with In Flames.

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For what other reason does an artist make money....if not to sell it and make money?
???

Artists make art.

Metallica makes money.

I always kinda thought the idea of music was to make art. Not money. Metallica didn't need money. They were already rolling in it. But yet they still felt the need to dumb down their music and exploit the average listener, and the radio.

I'm not saying it's impossible to make creative music and still have commercial success, but it is rare and in the case of Metallica post Black album it's non-existent.

Anyone can listen to whatever they want and that's cool, I just don't see how Metallica is creative.
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