Barack Obama Sweeps "Ballot Bowl" Saturday

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Azure

She never fired anyone.

only in the technical sense.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by Table 5

only in the technical sense.

In a way you're both winners, but in another more accurate way, Barney is the winner

[Nehkara]

So, speculation today is that Clinton may not win another contest in February and that her campaign is shifting towards March.

My question is: With only a 10 point lead in the polls in states like Texas, can Hillary really rely on them not to flip to Obama if he wins every contest leading up to them?

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

My question is: With only a 10 point lead in the polls in states like Texas, can Hillary really rely on them not to flip to Obama if he wins every contest leading up to them?

One thing that will help her in Texas is that she has a strong following amongst Latinos. A quick scan will show that she's won every state where they make up a sizeable chunk of the electorate.

However, if Obama's campaign can build that sense of 'inevitability' by going on a string of wins, especially if the margins of victory start to grow, it might be too late for her as Democrats could start thinking that they'd rather wrap up the nomination now and move on to the national campagin instead of continue a divisive primary season.

[HotHotHeat]

Clinton's speech this morning to African American women focused on "who can bring change in Washington". If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, I guess.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Clinton's speech this morning to African American women focused on "who can bring change in Washington". If you can't beat 'em, join 'em, I guess.

I feel sorry for the poor suckers who get suckered into believing the 'change Washington' BS.

Geez.

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Azure

I feel sorry for the poor suckers who get suckered into believing the 'change Washington' BS.

Geez.

Washington, the chocolate city with the marshmallow centre - and a graham cookie crust of corruption. - Steven Colbert.

[Nehkara]

Potomac primaries today. District of Columbia, Maryland, and Virginia. 168 pledged delegates, 238 total delegates at stake.

All three contests are supposed to favour Barack Obama due to large African American populations as well as affluent, well-educated white populations. All three factors have favoured Obama in the past.

I posted the outline on the OP. I will fill in the results this evening.

[Nehkara]

More interesting information:

Of the delegates not yet counted, the majority come from Washington state and Colorado, states that Barack Obama won handily.

[HotHotHeat]

Hillary Clinton is reportedly skipping todays senate vote on surveillance security, widely looked at as one of the most important votes of the year. Clinton the only one not to show up for the house vote.

[Resolute 14]

Watching season one of Third Watch last night, I was happened across an episode from March 2000, where Bosco, Yokas, Davis and Sully got into an argument about whether or not Hillary Clinton could become president. (She was running for Senator at the time the episode aired). The debate then turned to whether or not a black man could be elected President.

Rather uncanny how they called this exact scenario, eight years ago.

[Nehkara]

Ahead of the results from this evening, another delegate update has come down from CNN.

Total Delegates:

Clinton 1157 (12 ahead)
Obama 1145

Pledged Delegates:

Clinton 923
Obama 989 (66 ahead)

Superdelegates:

Clinton 234 (78 ahead)
Obama 156

[Resolute 14]

What the hell is a superdelegate?

[HotHotHeat]

I thought I finally understood super delegates, but from every explaination I've read they're people who vote for who think think will do the best in a general election...Or 'who they think will win'. To see Obama that far behind in the SD count makes me shake my head. sigh.

[Caged Great]

Super delegate means that they can choose to support whomever they like.

So if say they are both tied like this at the time of the convention, the superD's can select whomever they want to be the candidate

[Nehkara]

Superdelegates are high level Democratic Party officials, senators, congressmen, etc that are free to vote for whomever they choose to.

Clinton is significantly ahead in that category because she has been
around Washington longer than Obama.

A superdelegate does not have to reveal who they are supporting (although many do) and they also can change their mind at any point and support a different candidate.

There was an article today saying that some of Clinton's superdelegates are on the brink of changing their mind due to Obama's recent surge.

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

Superdelegates are high level Democratic Party officials, senators, congressmen, etc that are free to vote for whomever they choose to.

Clinton is significantly ahead in that category because she has been
around Washington longer than Obama.

A superdelegate does not have to reveal who they are supporting (although many do) and they also can change their mind at any point and support a different candidate.

There was an article today saying that some of Clinton's superdelegates are on the brink of changing their mind due to Obama's recent surge.

They can change their mind? lol I give up. What a wacko system. I guess the best way of looking at it is a vote of confidence based on 'what have you done for me lately'. So basically super delegates call the shots...and normal party member votes are pieces of worthless paper. How democratic.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

They can change their mind? lol I give up. What a wacko system. I guess the best way of looking at it is a vote of confidence based on 'what have you done for me lately'. So basically super delegates call the shots...and normal party member votes are pieces of worthless paper. How democratic.

Just look at our own country for examples of this. The Liberal's convention system completely shuts out the average card-carrying member from having even a minor say in who's leader. It's all backroom brokering.

The Tories under the Alliance banner used to have a one-member one vote policy, but lost that when they merged with the PC party. Now it's kinda one member one vote, but it's provincially based, so if you live in a province with fewer conservative party members your vote is much more important in determining the leader.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

What the hell is a superdelegate?

superdelegate = undemocratic

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by troutman

superdelegate = undemocratic

pretty much communistic ironically. the small group of unelected people who are part of the party end up making the big decisions.