Artists today that you think will be legnds tomorrow

[AnarChrist]

Kelly Clarkson, Ruben Studdard, Fantasia Barrino, Carrie Underwood, Tyler Hicks and Jordin Sparks will all be considered legends for their part in contributing to the end of music as we know it. There isn't a single artist out that will be considered legendary except for the badness.

[habernac]

I think Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains did it better than Nirvana. Their music is good, but the shotgun suicide of the lead singer did more for that band than anything they played.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

Music is a very generational thing in that the older generations never understand. If you go back to the 60s you'll find plenty of people who thought the Beatles were just a trend. Rap/Hip Hop can be the most innovative music out there.

Lots of posts in this thread just seem completely out-of-touch and completely disconnected from today's music scene.

It's certainly true that most people of a generation are sheep like. They only regard what is current as being worthwhile. I remember catching flack when I was young for actually liking my Mother's choice in music. LOL but I still listen to Johnny Mathis and Frank Sinatra etc. To double my trouble I also liked country music(we are talking old style country) and bluegrass. In fact bluegrass and the blues have always been at the top of my list.

What I do find though is once people are removed from the generational scene and are out in the work force mixing with differenet generations they often change in their music tastes. They forge out in new directions becoming more personal in their choices. In fact I find that to be almost universal with those that haven't moved on being almost backward.

Frankly I do believe that you can quite easily go through any genre of music and if you are willing to listen you pick up on the talent. And in retrospect you dismiss stuff you used to like that was just run of the mill popular bubblegum and reinforce your opinion of timeless classics.

I encourage my kids to listen to many different styles/artists. Plus I remind them to go song by song which is what I do. Because the quality of songs even by the best differs by huge degrees. I would never dream of limiting myself to one type of song or one era of music and I would be fully confident that each generation will have some truly gifted(legendary) artists!!

[troutman]

MIA
Flaming Lips
Modest Mouse


I think this thread is aimed at artists that are innovative/influential, and that may not have sold millions of records.

Ex. The Velvet Underground - always cited as influential, but never sold many records.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by habernac

I think Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains did it better than Nirvana. Their music is good, but the shotgun suicide of the lead singer did more for that band than anything they played.

All great bands, but none made records better than Nevermind and In Utero. Nirvana was huge before the suicide. I would add Screaming Trees, and Mudhoney to the list of great Seattle grunge bands.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by AnarChrist

Kelly Clarkson, Ruben Studdard, Fantasia Barrino, Carrie Underwood, Tyler Hicks and Jordin Sparks will all be considered legends for their part in contributing to the end of music as we know it. There isn't a single artist out that will be considered legendary except for the badness.

Dust in the wind, my friend. Music and art move on regardless of the corporate agenda.

Music, regardless of genre, has to have soul. Public Enemy had soul, The Clash had soul, Nirvana had soul. They had a message and they used art to transmit it. People got it, even for a single second, those songs became part of people's souls.

Clarkson and the rest of the Idol crowd couldn't bring a tear to my eye or a sensitive thought to my mind with all their multi-million corporate backing, writing teams and vocal synthesizers.

[chris lindberg]

Originally Posted by underGRADFlame

Maybe Canadian Legends....joining the ranks of Trooper and the Stampeders

Speaking of Canadian Legends, I always thought Streetheart was better, Toronto was good too.

[Stranger]

Originally Posted by troutman

All great bands, but none made records better than Nevermind and In Utero. Nirvana was huge before the suicide. I would add Screaming Trees, and Mudhoney to the list of great Seattle grunge bands.

I Agree. When Nirvana released "Nevermind" they totally sent rock in a different direction. The hair bands of the 80's were left in the dust.

[StoneCole]

Originally Posted by habernac

I think Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains did it better than Nirvana. Their music is good, but the shotgun suicide of the lead singer did more for that band than anything they played.

exactly

[StoneCole]

Originally Posted by underGRADFlame

Maybe Canadian Legends....joining the ranks of Trooper and the Stampeders

don't forget about Loverboy.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by habernac

I think Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains did it better than Nirvana. Their music is good, but the shotgun suicide of the lead singer did more for that band than anything they played.

He was a bigger deal than any of them long before he killed himself.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by troutman

All great bands, but none made records better than Nevermind and In Utero. Nirvana was huge before the suicide. I would add Screaming Trees, and Mudhoney to the list of great Seattle grunge bands.

Facelift, Dirt, Badmotorfinger, Superunknown, Ten and Vitalogy are all comparable or better albums.

[troutman]

50 Most Influential Records:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/revie...821230,00.html

http://www.time.com/time/2006/100albums/

So here's how we chose the albums for the All-TIME 100. We researched and listened and agonized until we had a list of the greatest and most influential records ever

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

He was a bigger deal than any of them long before he killed himself.

Exactly. I find it funny when people want to attribute Nirvana's success with Kurt Cobain's suicide. He was already considered a creative genius of sorts when he was alive. Their popularity and critical acclaim was massive before his death Let's not forget, grunge would've remained some underground seattle scene until smells like teen spirit knocked Michael Jackson off number 1 spot in the charts. That's no small feat given the musical landscape at the time.

Anyhow, I think Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice in Chains, and Soungarden are all great bands in their own right, and none of them were really doing the same thing, they all brought their own sound to the "grunge" scene. I think Pearl Jam is one of the bands that will be respected for a long time, and Alice in Chains will always be criminally underrated.

[StoneCole]

Originally Posted by troutman

All great bands, but none made records better than Nevermind and In Utero. Nirvana was huge before the suicide. I would add Screaming Trees, and Mudhoney to the list of great Seattle grunge bands.

...except that every Pearl Jam album is better than those two Nirvana albums. Okay maybe not Binaural, but every other one.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by habernac

I think Pearl Jam, Soundgarden and Alice in Chains did it better than Nirvana. Their music is good, but the shotgun suicide of the lead singer did more for that band than anything they played.

No way, no chance. Alice, Soundgarden, or Pearl Jam didn't have an album that changed youth the way Nirvana's Nevermind did.

Nirvana was already huge when Kurt died. They were always gonna be big. Sure, his death propelled them to a different level, but there's a damn good chance they would have got there on their own.

You can agree with or not, that up in the air, but I just can't believe that someone would think that Alice, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were better than Nirvana. Nirvana was easily the most influential group of the 90's EASILY.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by StoneCole

...except that every Pearl Jam album is better than those two Nirvana albums. Okay maybe not Binaural, but every other one.

No way, no chance.

[Burninator]

Tool

I can't really say this about many bands these days, but Tool have their own sound. Tool is never mistaken for another band. And it may not seem like it, but Tool has a huge following.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

No way, no chance. Alice, Soundgarden, or Pearl Jam didn't have an album that changed youth the way Nirvana's Nevermind did.

Nirvana was already huge when Kurt died. They were always gonna be big. Sure, his death propelled them to a different level, but there's a damn good chance they would have got there on their own.

You can agree with or not, that up in the air, but I just can't believe that someone would think that Alice, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam were better than Nirvana. Nirvana was easily the most influential group of the 90's EASILY.

I disagree. Pearl Jam's 10 was huge when released (and remains that way). Badmotorfinger may have been my favourite album of that whole era. Dirt and Facelift are up there as well.

Don't get me wrong, I am a big fan of Nirvana as well, I just think a lot of their hype was image driven, the music of the others held up better for me over time.

[Igottago]

Originally Posted by StoneCole

...except that every Pearl Jam album is better than those two Nirvana albums. Okay maybe not Binaural, but every other one.

I am a huge Pearl Jam fan...huge. I think their first 5 albums are absolute classics, and the following 3 are all solid. And I hate to compare the two bands because I love them both.

But the music that Nirvana was releasing, especially on those two albums, was groundbreaking. In fact, of all the grunge bands, no newer band has ever come close to sounding like Nirvana..not even close. There are countless Pearl Jam and Alice In Chain rip off bands, but anyone who tries to sound like Nirvana just can't pull it off. Cobain was a true original.