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Old 05-11-2007, 04:52 PM   #61
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How can I tell it's a real experience and not something concocted by the mind or outside influence, is another good question and something I pondered when I first got into this. I first had to accept some trust with the practioners and listened for a while to see if the people involved were honest, didn't have a hidden agenda, and weren't idiots, offering some mumbo jumbo I didn't really need. The results of what I do is very individual although I do enjoy others inspiration, which can come from anywhere, even this thread makes me fell good. Today, it comes down to, I like the experience, with few strings attached.
The human mind being vulnerable to believing things that aren't in reality true isn't limited to people who have a hidden agenda, idiots and that sort, so that a group lacks those qualities doesn't speak to the validity (or invalditiy) of the experience.

It gets back to the invisible dragon in my garage.. if only I can see it, feel it's breath, etc.. if experiencing it is 100% internal, it might make me happy to have him but I can't really expect others to believe me when I tell them about it. If it makes me happy, is there anything wrong with believing in it?
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Old 05-11-2007, 04:53 PM   #62
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(Rhetorical question) Anyone wonder why we tend to refer to God as a masculine figure?...He is this...He is that etc.
For most of human history most cultures has been male driven, men had the power and females weren't equal.
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Old 05-11-2007, 06:10 PM   #63
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The human mind being vulnerable to believing things that aren't in reality true isn't limited to people who have a hidden agenda, idiots and that sort, so that a group lacks those qualities doesn't speak to the validity (or invalditiy) of the experience.

It gets back to the invisible dragon in my garage.. if only I can see it, feel it's breath, etc.. if experiencing it is 100% internal, it might make me happy to have him but I can't really expect others to believe me when I tell them about it. If it makes me happy, is there anything wrong with believing in it?
True but if they seem sane and reasonable, it may lead a person to try it. Once that is done, a better decision can be made.

As for the invisible dragon in your garage, you may not be able to show him to your friends but if you can show your friends how to see their own dragon, they will know what you're talking about.
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