Another school shooting.

[SpitFire40]

That is so unbelievable... what the hell

Kill yourself if you feel that's how you want to end up... Why take 32 innocent souls with you?

Coward! Rot in hell

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Azure

I heard he chained the doors to stop people from escaping.

What a sick freak.

Probably chained then just as much to stop police/security from being able to enter easily.

this was a well planned out attack. He was ready and prepared to inflict mass carnage.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Probably chained then just as much to stop police/security from being able to enter easily.

this was a well planned out attack. He was ready and prepared to inflict mass carnage.

Which is probably why there was a slow response from the security guards.

When I was in high school we went through a mock lockdown on a monthly basis to prepare for something like this.

But the quickest response time for help was the Calgary SWAT team....something like an hour wait.

[OILFAN #81]

I've been watching CNN for a few hours atleast ....this is absolutely hideous. I have no clue why we have idiots like this on the planet. I can't believe what I am seeing here. 31 dead as per CNN, plus the shooter and they just played an eyewitness video, you could hear all the gunshots.

Charles Whitman 16 killed in 1966 - Univ of Texas was the worst prior to this in terms of fatalities.

I can't believe this. This is so tragic. You are a pathetic person and to take 31 people with you doesn't even make you a human being. I agree with spitfire. He's a coward and rot in hell!

[C-Four]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Because it never works, especially if the killer is using either an automatic weapon or a pistol.

If your dealing with a guy with a gun and you don't have one, and you decide to rush him, your likely going to die since that person has already made the decision to kill people, and in mass.

When I was in the military, we played out an un armed man attacking an armed man, and 9 times out of 10, the unarmed man was dead before he got within 10 feet no matter what the element of of surprise is.

Unless you're Jack Bauer.

[SpitFire40]

Columbine was April 20th 1999, I wonder if this crazy prick planned for it to be around this date just as family members of those dead in Colorado were planning to memorialize their lost family members..

If that was his mindset at all, even more the messed up.

[BlackArcher101]

Originally Posted by Azure

But the quickest response time for help was the Calgary SWAT team....something like an hour wait.

I believe calgary's SWAT team is composed of a number of officers who are not full time swat and carry other police duties. When a call comes in, they are scattered throughout the city and have to assembly before hand or at the scene. Hence the hour wait time.

Larger cities usually have swat teams that are on standby full time or taking care of warrants/busts/arrests when not needed in a situation.

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by BlackArcher101

I believe calgary's SWAT team is composed of a number of officers who are not full time swat and carry other police duties. When a call comes in, they are scattered throughout the city and have to assembly before hand or at the scene. Hence the hour wait time.

Larger cities usually have swat teams that are on standby full time or taking care of warrants/busts/arrests when not needed in a situation.

That is true.

they wear different uniforms (similar to the K-9 guys) and drive around in unmarked cars (IIRC). They have their stuff in the back of the car, but go to all the good calls.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Seperate buildings a long ways apart.

the first incident from what i can gather seemed completely isolated and overwith.

Then......bam, the guy went ballistic elsewhere.

Yeah that is what I gather from this timeline put forth by MSNBC

9:45 am
As police are investigating the first shooting, reports of a second shooting are received.

Scott Hendricks, an associate professor of engineering science and mechanics, tells the Roanoke Times that he was on the third floor of Norris Hall, an engineering building, when he "started hearing some banging and some shots, then I saw a student crawling on the ground." A woman who answers the phone in the school's Entomology Department tells the Washington Post that the campus is on lockdown. "There's cop cars everywhere," she says.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18138327/

[OILFAN #81]

I know 3 people who go to Virginia Tech. I've got in contact with two of them so far. Pretty crazy stuff that this is happening.

[Inferno]

I watched a video the other day from what looked like a documentary on mass shootings of a guy who filmed himself talking about a mass shooting he was planning at his old job. It was quite disturbing seeing how screwed in the head he looked and he even admitted he knew he was sick in the head.

He ended up not going forward with the massacre but instead opened fire at a fast food restaurant killing two people and then himself.

[OILFAN #81]

Wanna hear a chilling story? Steve is one of the people I met in my 4th year at the U of A. We took Corporate Law together. We weren't extremely close but still friends. He went to Virginia Tech to go into the engineering program as it's one of the best in the country. I saw this story this morning and got in contact with him. Turns out Steve was on campus and was in the room when it took place but did manage to get out. He actually broke his leg trying to get out of the "warzone" and jumping from that room. I've now been in contact with the 3 people that I know there. The other 2 were on campus but not near the direct event.

[SpitFire40]

That's scary OF81

[transplant99]

It has now been annointed as the single largest massacre in US history on US soil.

[Bob]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Wanna hear a chilling story? Steve is one of the people I met in my 4th year at the U of A. We took Corporate Law together. We weren't extremely close but still friends. He went to Virginia Tech to go into the engineering program as it's one of the best in the country. I saw this story this morning and got in contact with him. Turns out Steve was on campus and was in the room when it took place but did manage to get out. He actually broke his leg trying to get out of the "warzone" and jumping from that room. I've now been in contact with the 3 people that I know there. The other 2 were on campus but not near the direct event.

Holy crap! Your friend is very fortunate!

[transplant99]

33 confirmed dead now. No idea who the shooter is yet.

[transplant99]

They aren't even sure if there was only 1 shooter or not....yikes.

Sounds like this thing has been bungled since the first incident.

[Burninator]

So did police kill the shooter(s) or did he(they) kill themselves?

[Bob]

From the Wikipedia article:

The identity of the perpetrator is currently unknown. One eyewitness told Fox News the gunman was a young Asian man believed to be a student, possibly in his early 20s[citation needed] wearing a maroon cap and a black leather jacket,[9] or possibly a bulletproof vest.[13] He committed suicide inside Norris Hall by a self-inflicted shot to the head.[4] He was believed to have used either two 9 mm. caliber handguns or a 9 mm. caliber handgun and a .22 caliber handgun.[9] Authorities said that the gunman carried no identification.[citation needed]

There's a cell phone video that shows police surrounding the building while the shooting was taking place (gunshots clearly audible), but there are no reports of the gunman exchanging fire with the police. It's believed he killed himself just before police arrived.

[nmhen]

hey gang - please say a prayer or send a thought, whatever comports with your personal belief system, for the people who are devastated by this in my country today.

I was living in Denver during Columbine. It was a horrifying, terrifying, confusing time. My company was the largest tenant of either building not to lose anyone on 9/11.

Americans are capable of wonderful acts of humanity, compassion, intellect, and beauty.

Unfortunatley we're also capable of the polar opposite. When it's kids, future leaders/poets/fathers/mothers and friends who are the victims, it's especially sickening and disheartening as another American and human.

I pray that tragedy like this never touches you and yours any closer than headlines and stories.

If you have kids, go home and give them an extra squeeze tonight.