Next stop legalized Polygamy

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

We both know it doesn't work that way.

You show me where any culture that practices polygamy, practices it so that the women has more spouses then the man.....it doesn't. I think there was one tribe in Africa that did it. Oh....ya.....I also think there was an alien race on Star Trek where it also happened.

Polyandry is most notibly practised in Tibet.

But it is definately the much rarer form.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

OK. Well let me post it another way. Why should we not allow Polygamy?

Thanks.

Now we're on the same page.

Why shouldn't we allow Polygamy? Gay marriage is already legal...

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Wow, just wow....

So did you make this up or did Ted Byfield write an 'article' on that as well?

Eh?

Christians are a long way from Mormonism.

Must we have this argument?

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Azure

Eh?

Christians are a long way from Mormonism.

Must we have this argument?

Mormons are Christians.

They call themselves the "Church of Jesus Christ."

Can't get anymore "Christian" than that.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I see tremendous positives in promoting polygamy.

1. It will cut down on out-of-wedlock children.
2. It will curtail extra-marital sex, including prostitution.
3. Children can benefit from having more than two role models.
4. More people can experience the joys and responsibilities of parenthood.
5. It would help modernize archaic gender roles.
6. Communal property would be more fairly distributed.

It's an outstanding idea whose time has come.

Hollywood really needs to jump in on this.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Mormons are Christians.

They call themselves the "Church of Jesus Christ."

Can't get anymore "Christian" than that.

Most Christians would call Mormons a cult. Joseph Smith writing a new holy book and Jesus supposedly visiting the Americas and all that.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by photon

Most Christians would call Mormons a cult. Joseph Smith writing a new holy book and Jesus supposedly visiting the Americas and all that.

Who cares.

They call themselves that, therefore they are.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Who cares.

They call themselves that, therefore they are.

I guess, just pointing it out since I'm sure it will be pointed out sooner or later.

Lots of the things Mormons believe aren't from the Bible though.. Mormons are polytheistic and don't believe that the Bible is the final authority.

They would say they Mormons portray themselves as Christians to deceive more people.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by photon

I guess, just pointing it out since I'm sure it will be pointed out sooner or later.

Lots of the things Mormons believe aren't from the Bible though.. Mormons are polytheistic and don't believe that the Bible is the final authority.

They would say they Mormons portray themselves as Christians to deceive more people.

Ah.

But "New and Improved" Tide is still Tide brand laundry detergent, is it not?

[Reggie Dunlop]

Anyways, maybe what churches ought to do is lobby governments to ban celibacy.

That's traditionally considered "Anti-Family" too.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

That guy annoys me!!

Big surprise there.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Ah.

But "New and Improved" Tide is still Tide brand laundry detergent, is it not?

Ah, but a counterfeit Tide made by the evil bad soap organizations to steal customers away from the real Tide also will claim it is Tide!

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by photon

Ah, but a counterfeit Tide made by the evil bad soap organizations to steal customers away from the real Tide also will claim it is Tide!

Then they get their asses sued for copyright infringement.

Jesus Christ is not a registered trademark. Well, not by Proctor and Gamble anyways.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

What did I just say......I said in theory it is all fine and dandy, in reality....it is not.

OK but its that because of polygamy or because of the people practicing it?

How can you blame it on polygamy?

[Reggie Dunlop]

The monothiest monogamists who value the property relations of marriage are right to be afraid. Their social relation is reliant on private property, and the owning of people as property (women and children). It is a fragile myth that denies the individual members their freedom.This is not a free relationship between free individuals. It is a socially constructed role, where individuals are enslaved to their gender, not to their ability or talents. It is a relationship of oppression.

[kobafett]

I think this video will clear up any questions about the mormons.

Link

[Calgaryborn]

This site will give you more than you want to know about Mormonism:

http://www.utlm.org/

Just click on topics. It does do it's best to document what it says with references and in some cases scanned Mormon publications.

Just the idea they believe that men can obtain godhood separates they from historical Christianity.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Mormons are Christians.

They call themselves the "Church of Jesus Christ."

Can't get anymore "Christian" than that.

As I've observed, Christians don't consider Catholics "Christian" but Catholics do consider themselves Christians.

Pretty lame by all parties if you ask me. It's a love of Jesus Christ, not a RIM/NTP patent lawsuit....

[Calgaryborn]

Originally Posted by I-Hate-Hulse

As I've observed, Christians don't consider Catholics "Christian" but Catholics do consider themselves Christians.

Pretty lame by all parties if you ask me. It's a love of Jesus Christ, not a RIM/NTP patent lawsuit....

I don't consider Catholics Christians because their way of salvation
differs from that of the Bible. They believe they enter into God's family through works administered by their church called "sacraments". This is foreign and contrary to scriptures. They believe that the church(their church) was established by Jesus Christ through Peter and that as such God would have them interpret and expand on the teaching provided by scriptures. Evangelical Christians believe salvation is obtained when one repents(turns to God) which is a decision of the heart and accepts the free gift of salvation Christ provided. There is no direct church involvement in this process. No human authority governs it.

Historically I understand that Catholics are considered under the umbrella
of Christianity because they look to the same God for salvation. Historically Mormons have not been seen under this umbrella because they aren't looking to our God as much as to becoming a God. They have bibles but believe them unreliable because of corruption over time and rely on their book of Mormon and two others as authoritative. The Bible is referenced only when it agrees with these books.

If the Mormons are to be considered Christians; why not the Muslims? They teach that Jesus was a great prophet as well. They also believe the bible has been corrupted and rely on their own holy book. They aren't seeking godhood but have a salvation of works like the Catholics.

[jolinar of malkshor]

A Christian is anyone who believes that Jesus is Christ the son of god and follows his teachings.

Thats what I have been taught anyhow. So....therefore....Catholics and most Protostant faiths are Christians.