12-12-2006, 02:39 PM
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I guess you could do that. Or you could save it as an MS Word document on a PC formatted disk and then take it home and work on it in MS Word on your Mac. But hey, do whatever's simpler, right?
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Or you could use a PC at home and have it be exactly the same instead of having to modify it so you can use your mac. Like you say "whatever's simpler, right"
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12-12-2006, 02:41 PM
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#62
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Calgary
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I hate these commercials.. they're ######ed to me. Are they advertising the OS? or what? Because you can do pretty much everything on a PC, it's just not out of the box ready.
Mac is for noobs, with that said i'd buy a Macbook just for something different. But saying the PC is just for crunching numbers, ect is lame...
Oh yeah, Mac... how's the gaming going?? Oh... you don't have any? That's a shame.
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12-12-2006, 02:51 PM
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#63
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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Originally Posted by Dominicwasalreadytaken
Unless you're a sucker like me and have to take work home. It's too bad, I'd like some better software for graphics at home. But I'm not going to buy two machines.
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Have you ever looked at the Gimp? GNU Image Manipulation Program. It's a linux port. Pretty decent on a Window's machine though. A lot of the same functionality as Photoshop. Oh yeah.. and it's free.
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12-12-2006, 03:03 PM
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Originally Posted by tjinaz
Or you could use a PC at home and have it be exactly the same instead of having to modify it so you can use your mac. Like you say "whatever's simpler, right"
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I don't think you understand. Macs can read PC files off PC disks and then save them in PC format. Documents edited on a PC are 100% portable to Mac. I do it all the time--no "modification" is necessary. If you're using MS Word, Adobe, Dreamweaver, or any number of applications that are available on both platforms, then documents are always portable to the Mac.
Where are you getting the idea that you have to "modify" a document before your Mac can read it? That just isn't true.
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12-12-2006, 03:04 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: not lurking
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Originally Posted by tjinaz
Or you could use a PC at home and have it be exactly the same instead of having to modify it so you can use your mac. Like you say "whatever's simpler, right"
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You don't need to modify your mac to run Office software on it. You just install the software, same as you would on windows. Infact, the install process on the Mac was a lot simpler than the last time I installed Office on a PC.
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12-12-2006, 03:05 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Table 5
I find the smugness of the mac guy really annoying. And I love macs.
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That smugness is the whole idea, and part of the appeal of those ads. I love them.
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12-12-2006, 03:05 PM
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First Line Centre
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My question for the Mac users: the built in software for image and video editting, how does it compare to the Adobe products such as Photoshop and Premiere?
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12-12-2006, 03:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by MolsonInBothHands
My question for the Mac users: the built in software for image and video editting, how does it compare to the Adobe products such as Photoshop and Premiere?
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I don't know much about the video side, but Mac's OEM photo tools are fairly basic... good for cropping, resizing, retouching, etc. But if you're doing any sort of composition work, you'll need a more professional tool. I would assume it's more or less the same with the video side.
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12-12-2006, 03:10 PM
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Retired
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Doesn't virtual PC really slow down the actual processor speed? So in effect if you were playing pretty taxing hardware games, it would be quite slow, much slower than its PC counterpart?
Just what I heard.
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12-12-2006, 03:10 PM
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Originally Posted by MolsonInBothHands
My question for the Mac users: the built in software for image and video editting, how does it compare to the Adobe products such as Photoshop and Premiere?
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I use Photoshop and Illustrator on my Mac. Adobe products are available in the Mac platform, and work perfectly. I don't know about the built in software--I've been using Adobe for years.
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12-12-2006, 03:11 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Doesn't virtual PC really slow down the actual processor speed? So in effect if you were playing pretty taxing hardware games, it would be quite slow, much slower than its PC counterpart?
Just what I heard.
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Bootcamp is supposed to be as fast as running Windows on a PC.
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12-12-2006, 03:15 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by peter12
Bootcamp is supposed to be as fast as running Windows on a PC.
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Yeeeeah, it's totally not, though. /seenit.
..Unless of course you're used to running Windows XP on an 800 mhz processor with 128 MB of ram...
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12-12-2006, 03:24 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by TheDragon
Yeeeeah, it's totally not, though. /seenit.
..Unless of course you're used to running Windows XP on an 800 mhz processor with 128 MB of ram...
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Are you thinking of Parallels, maybe, because that's virtualization, which is not the same as Bootcamp? Because with bootcamp, you are running XP on the raw metal, so it's no different in performance than a PC with comparable CPU and RAM.
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12-12-2006, 03:29 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Nope... I was running it on Bootcamp. Fresh install, and a brand new Mac laptop. It wasn't for me, though. It was for my boss. He loves it. I personally, could not stand the huge delay.
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12-12-2006, 03:29 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheDragon
Yeeeeah, it's totally not, though. /seenit.
..Unless of course you're used to running Windows XP on an 800 mhz processor with 128 MB of ram...
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Well... maybe the Wall Street Journal is wrong.
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12-12-2006, 03:34 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary
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Please people if you don't know what you're talking about, stop talking...anybody who wants to actually use this thread as research on the Mac vs PC debate would be so confused by all the misinformation
Windows runs just as fast on Macs now as it runs on a PC with similar hardware because both now use intel chips and the operating system can be installed natively. Virtual PC has gone the way of the dinosaur (but yes, it was slower). You can also use Parallels if you don't want to use boot camp so that you don't have to restart your computer to use windows.
You can buy Microsoft Office for Mac and it is completely compatable with Microsoft Office for PC
Macs do not get viruses because they are inherently more secure than Windows. Windows was designed before the Internet even existed and Microsoft's plan was that your computer would be a stand alone box. Macs have since been overhauled with Unix under the hood for a system that is much more secure. Programs do not have access to the core of the operating system like they do in Windows.
Apple isn't really targetting the business environment, they're targetting home users. They want you to buy a Mac for editing pictures, making movies, listening to music, talking to friends and browsing the Internet...and maybe some work if you have to.
Last edited by Flames0910; 12-12-2006 at 03:37 PM.
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12-12-2006, 03:49 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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I'm sorry, but sharing what I've seen with my own two eyes classifies as misinformation? So experience from people who've actually used Windows on a Mac doesn't count as credible, now?
Last edited by TheDragon; 12-12-2006 at 03:52 PM.
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12-12-2006, 03:54 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TheDragon
I'm sorry, but sharing what I've seen with my own two eyes classifies as misinformation? So experience from people who've actually used Windows on a Mac doesn't count as credible, now?
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Well I've used Windows on my Macbook 2.0 Ghz and on my cousin's Macbook Pro, it all worked perfectly. Maybe you're boss is running an old Mac without an Intel chip.
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12-12-2006, 03:55 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by TheDragon
I'm sorry, but sharing what I've seen with my own two eyes classifies as misinformation? So experience from people who've actually used Windows on a Mac doesn't count as credible, now?
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If you are running Windows on a Mac with boot camp (and not parallels or the now dead virtual pc) then something has clearly gone wrong. Not only that, but something has gone so drastically wrong that a google search of "windows xp + slow boot camp" finds nobody with the same problem, only people marvelling at how it runs at native speeds.
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