09-11-2006, 08:56 PM
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this article pretty much is proof of who will win the format war
HD-DVD gets backwards compatibility
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09-11-2006, 09:44 PM
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#62
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Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
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Both are backwards compatible. Have been for a long time. The only thing new there is a third layer. Blu-ray has 8.
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09-12-2006, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Barnes
Both are backwards compatible. Have been for a long time. The only thing new there is a third layer. Blu-ray has 8.
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so movie studios are releasing blu-ray movies with both standard and HD versions on the same disk, that can be played in both blu-ray and standard DVD players? because that's what this article refers to
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09-12-2006, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Barnes
Blu-ray has 8.
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When did they get to 8?
Last month TDK announced they had developed a 6 layer disc.
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09-12-2006, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by White Doors
Sorry, no, if I can remember, Total recall was sold as a 'sell through' movie, either that or you bought it after it was first released on video. Sell through, they would reduce the price when first released on video for movies that they figured most people already watched at the theatre and movies like Disney etc. I worked in the industry. DVD's were a blessing for the movie rental business. After a movie was out for a while on video, then you could get it for $20-$30, but when it was first released, the one's that were not 'sell through' were over $100. Crazy eh?
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I had a friend who would pay over $100 for his movies. I thought he was crazy because a few weeks later I'd see the movies selling for $25
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09-12-2006, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
When did they get to 8?
Last month TDK announced they had developed a 6 layer disc. |
Bad math on my part. I figuered 8X25=200 but its 6X33=200.
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09-13-2006, 10:23 AM
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I got my hd-dvd player yesterday. Just watched one movie. It looks and sounds excellent. Far surpassed my expectations. Looks much better than any of the movies on HBO HD. Nice to see no motion artifacting at all on things like explosions,etc. Definitely worth it, IMO. It does a great job at upconverting DVD too, even though they look pretty bad in comparison.
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09-19-2006, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Barnes
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Holy crap! Those guys are gonna be stinkin' rich.
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09-19-2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Barnes
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Here's the patent. And it isn't even limited to 3 layers.
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A data disc consists of several layers, including at least one layer conforming to a first format, and a second layer conforming to a second format. The formats can include CD, DVD, HD and BD formats and the layers may be physical, logic or application layers.
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Really trying to make the patent broad - "several layers", "can include", "may be physical, logical or application layers". Talk about covering all your bases - I thought patents were supposed to be specific?
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—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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09-19-2006, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
Here's the patent. And it isn't even limited to 3 layers.
Really trying to make the patent broad - "several layers", "can include", "may be physical, logical or application layers". Talk about covering all your bases - I thought patents were supposed to be specific?
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never written a patent I take it.
Sadly, many patents nowadays get granted simply based on thought experiments. No proof of concept is needed. Especially it seems in science. And even if you do provide proof of concept you can pretty much cover anything you want that is remotely related.
That patent is actually pretty straight forward in coverage!
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09-20-2006, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ernie
never written a patent I take it.
Sadly, many patents nowadays get granted simply based on thought experiments. No proof of concept is needed. Especially it seems in science. And even if you do provide proof of concept you can pretty much cover anything you want that is remotely related.
That patent is actually pretty straight forward in coverage!
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No, but if they are written too broadly, shouldn't they be, in effect, unenforceable? I know there have already been talks about this process (multiple different layers), more than a month ago. I would think there would already be prior art.
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"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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