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Old 08-01-2006, 12:37 PM   #61
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Who decides? Usually someone with a brain in their head, but those are very short supply in Washington, so that explains the predicament the soldiers find themselves in. The military leaders told the pinheads in power this was the wrong fight to pick and was not needed for the defense of the United States. There was no threat, but they still went in for reasons yet unclear.
Can't argue with that. Still doesn't mean a soldier is not serving his country in Iraq.

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As to why people enlist, that is up to each individual, but I'm sure a part of the pat answer is going to be "to serve my country". Some how I don't believe that kids enlist with the idea of "protecting those who would profiteer from our military actions".
Very good point. Brings us back to the original theory of people enlisting in the military.

I do realize that some will enlist for the college benefits, or even just the experiance in certain branches such as the Army Corps of Engineering.

Something that will go a long way to help you get a job in the civilian world.

Others will enlist because of tradition; many people I have talked to have said they joined because their whole family has served in every war since WW1.

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As to what they think, they don't think. Most of them are grunts that have been told what to think. Most of them won't have an original idea of their own until they are discharged. Now save me the sob story that is sure to come about that being an insult to those serving, because what I said is true, and you damn well know it. These kids have been programmed to follow orders and do exactly what they are told. Freedom of thought frowned upon, so it is unlikely these kids are going to be sitting around, discussing philosophy and questioning the meaning of them being there at time in reality. Most of those soldiers are doing their best to survive.
And rightfully so, don't you think?

The military is not a democracy, but a dictatorship. Sadly the people on Capital Hill use that power where they shouldn't.

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And as I said, they are executing their duties, not serving their country. To server their country would mean to do something in its best interest. Doing what they are doing does not appear to be in their country's best interest. If you can't see the difference, you haven't had the first original thought since your discharge.
You live in the United States, and from what I remember, close to a couple of military bases. Go ask a couple soldiers why they serve.

Having said that, you are right. They are just executing their duty, something their country asks of them.
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:42 PM   #62
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Having said that, you are right. They are just executing their duty, something their country asks of them.
Their country is not asking them to be there, the government is. That government is representative of a small part of the population, and its growing smaller. Please don't make it sound like the soldiers in Iraq are defending America, because we know that ain't true. They are there because some idiot in Washington had a boner to try nation building.
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Old 08-01-2006, 03:33 PM   #63
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Their country is not asking them to be there, the government is. That government is representative of a small part of the population, and its growing smaller. Please don't make it sound like the soldiers in Iraq are defending America, because we know that ain't true. They are there because some idiot in Washington had a boner to try nation building.
Come on Lanny. You know exactly what I mean.
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