open letter to Dave Bronconnier.....

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Uncarved

And it is the same with patios all over the place, maybe they should just ban smoking on the street also.

Sounds like a great idea!

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Circa89

I can see Calgary City Counsel ban smoking in 2008 restaurants and night clubs or sooner but they have to re-open the patios to smokers.

No, they don't have to re-open patios to smokers. If the smokers want to smoke so badly then they can go in the alley or their car to smoke. Too bad if you don't like it. No one told you to smoke in the first place.

[Flame On]

I don't mind a smoking ban and I'm not a smoker. Ex smoker actually, not puffed in years.
But I just wish people would react the same to other issues with HALF the temerity they do for smoking. Cancer rates are going through the roof, much of it isn't smoking related, but there isn't a peep from people about getting chemicals out of food and listing carcenagens on products.
I bet half the people complaining; quite rightly, have drunken under the influence (by however much) many times.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Flame On

I don't mind a smoking ban and I'm not a smoker. Ex smoker actually, not puffed in years.
But I just wish people would react the same to other issues with HALF the temerity they do for smoking. Cancer rates are going through the roof, much of it isn't smoking related, but there isn't a peep from people about getting chemicals out of food and listing carcenagens on products.
I bet half the people complaining; quite rightly, have drunken under the influence (by however much) many times.

Getting drunk does not have the potential to hurt anyone else besides yourself unless you get in a car. Same with food products. You are making the conscious choice to eat what you want and when you want, so live iwth the consequences. Smokers are making the choice for you.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Flame On

I don't mind a smoking ban and I'm not a smoker. Ex smoker actually, not puffed in years.
But I just wish people would react the same to other issues with HALF the temerity they do for smoking. Cancer rates are going through the roof, much of it isn't smoking related, but there isn't a peep from people about getting chemicals out of food and listing carcenagens on products.
I bet half the people complaining; quite rightly, have drunken under the influence (by however much) many times.

Why do people always compare smoking and alcohol or fast food?

I don't wake up and have Big Mac, I don't take a few shooter breaks throughout the day, I go weeks on end without fast food or alcohol. And when I do have a Whopper, the person sitting next to me isn't going to be inhaling carcinogens (unless I had beaked beans for dinner the night before).

Outside of all the harmful effects, how many other over-the-shelf products are there that are anywhere near as chemically addictive when used for it's designed purpose?

[Flame On]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

Why do people always compare smoking and alcohol or fast food?

I don't wake up and have Big Mac, I don't take a few shooter breaks throughout the day, I go weeks on end without fast food or alcohol. And when I do have a Whopper, the person sitting next to me isn't going to be inhaling carcinogens (unless I had beaked beans for dinner the night before).

Outside of all the harmful effects, how many other over-the-shelf products are there that are anywhere near as chemically addictive when used for it's designed purpose?

Chemical addiction? What's that got to do with anything? Its the smoke that you passively inhale that's wrong not whether we're banning addictive things. And by the way there are thousands of carcinogenic items that are on the market, unknown to the public. They're not over the counter pharmacist goods.
If you actually read my post you'll see I'm not comparing smoking to other issues, I'm wishing there was as much bile and awareness of other harmful areas of society that would be challenged.
And by the way there are people that do eat fast food and become fat *******s and take up hospital space, drain the resources of healthcare, increase waiting lists and the public at large passively gets the results of that. But no one makes a peep about it. Christ almighty!

[jolinar of malkshor]

As the last City in Canada to ban smoking at least we can rest on the fact that smoking IS on the way out and not socially acceptable anymore.

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by Flame On

And by the way there are people that do eat fast food and become fat *******s and take up hospital space, drain the resources of healthcare, increase waiting lists and the public at large passively gets the results of that.

Someone else eating to excess and being obese isn't going to negatively impact your health in the manner that second hand smoke impacts non-smokers. This whole world is so self obsessed that they only care about something if it affects them.

[Fuzzy McGillicuddy]

Originally Posted by nieuwy-89

Bronconnier is highly respected as one of Canada's top big city mayor's. He is a leader, unlike many mayors who pander to special interests and are concerned only with their own re-election. Be happy you have him and not some of the weaklings that Edmonton has had (and still has).

Bronco is respected among his peers because he bitches and bellyaches louder than most about how poor Calgary is. Other municipal leaders love to hear that mantra. He's respected among Calgary's developers because he wants to do nothing more than spend as much money as he can on building new roads and infrastructure. The developers that fund his campaign are getting a good return for their investment.

That's not to suggest that a city growing as fast as Calgary doesn't need to upgrade and add new roads, etc. But the city's purse is not as cash strapped as Bronco would have us believe. Calgary city council has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy McGillicuddy

Bronco is respected among his peers because he bitches and bellyaches louder than most about how poor Calgary is. Other municipal leaders love to hear that mantra. He's respected among Calgary's developers because he wants to do nothing more than spend as much money as he can on building new roads and infrastructure. The developers that fund his campaign are getting a good return for their investment.

That's not to suggest that a city growing as fast as Calgary doesn't need to upgrade and add new roads, etc. But the city's purse is not as cash strapped as Bronco would have us believe. Calgary city council has a spending problem, not a revenue problem.

His complaining is starting to get old though and he needs to turn it down a few notches. If thats all he does then the people in power will start to get tired of him.

It has happened already. He could get a meeting with Shirly M before the last provincial budget but Edmontons mayor had no problem.