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Old 06-08-2006, 09:08 AM   #61
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Anyone remember Dave Stieb had 2 games in a row where his no-hitter was broken-up in the 9th (Sept 30, '88)? I was at the 2nd one (well - I got kicked out of it). Stieb had 4 no hitters broken up in the 9th, and 3 of those were with 2 out. It was great to see him finally get a no-hitter when he had come close so many times (In 1990 - his was the 9th (out of 9) no hitters that season)
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Old 06-08-2006, 12:37 PM   #62
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I had a poster of Dave Steib when I was younger that told that story ... he was a great pitcher.

Jays looking good tonight for taking 3 of 4 from the O's with Doc on the mound!
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:16 AM   #63
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Actually, the batter does not go to first on a balk. Only the runners advance.

A balk is basically a deliberate attempt at decieving the base runners. Thus, a balk cannot be called with the bases empty.

Most common reasons for a balk are:
- Starting then stopping your windup.
- Throwing to a base without stepping off the rubber
- Throwing to first base after stepping towards home on a pickoff attempt
- Faking a throw to first (it is legal to fake a throw to second or third).
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"Starting then stopping your windup" is not a common balk. I must say that has to be one of the rarer balks.

"Throwing to a base without stepping off the rubber" is most definitely NOT a balk. It is very much legal and happens many times per game.

"Throwing to first base after stepping towards home on a pickoff attempt" is also not a balk, if the pitcher is left handed. As long as the pitcher's leg does not break the plane represented by a 45 degree angle between first and home he can still go to first. If he has broken the 45 and goes to first, it is a balk. Obviously this is a big time judgement call, and you will hear announcers refer to a move like this by a pitcher as a "balk move", because it is so close to, and often is, a balk.

"Faking a throw to first" is not a balk if you step off the rubber first. You can fake at the runner all you want as long as you aren't on the rubber.

One of the common balks is the dropping of the ball when the pitcher is on the rubber. This happened to a guy in one of my games this past week.

Another common balk is when a pitcher throws to an unoccupied base without stepping off the rubber first.

And maybe the most common balk called is when the pitcher does not pause when he comes set. You'll often hear players in the dugout yell out "make him pause" or "he's bouncing". This is in reference to the pitcher not coming properly set.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:21 AM   #64
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On one of the strikeouts there is a passed ball or wild pitch that the batter strikes out on. In this event the runner can run down to 1st base and if he's not thrown out he is safe. It is recorded as a K still though.
Only when first base is unoccupied or there is two out.
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Old 06-10-2006, 02:28 AM   #65
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Another very rare event is a hitter winning the triple crown. To do this, a player needs to lead the league (MLB or just AL/NL?) in homeruns, RBI's, and batting average.
Carl Yastrezemski. 1967.

As for the draft, it takes place in early June because this is when the high school and college seasons have just been completed, as someone already said. Speaking of the draft, the highest Canadian taken this year from Victoria, a 6'5 205lbs 17 year old. He was taken in the 4th round, 113th overall. It's funny cause I had a game against his team that night! He wasn't in the lineup and we won 8-0, but I went over and congratulated him after the game. Highest draft pick ever from the Island.

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Old 06-11-2006, 03:55 PM   #66
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Only when first base is unoccupied or there is two out.
Really? I knew about first base being unoccupied but not about being two outs. So if there is 1 out it doesn't apply?

How about that.
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Old 06-11-2006, 07:32 PM   #67
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Really? I knew about first base being unoccupied but not about being two outs. So if there is 1 out it doesn't apply?

How about that.
A batter can try to reach first base on a dropped third strike if A) first base is unoccupied or B) there is two out and first base is occupied/unoccupied.

Lots of oddball rules.
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Old 06-11-2006, 07:49 PM   #68
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Kelly Wunch once recorded five strikeouts in one inning in the minors via that route.

The Calgary Cannons final run was scored as the result of a dropped third strike and an erroneous throw past first base. It was the winning run in the bottom of the 9th of a 14-13 game against Edmonton.
that happened at a Vipers game a little while ago...Shorsher for the vipers struck out in the 9th,the catcher missed the ball...he throws to first but the firstbasemen doesnt catch it,and the runner on 3rd comes home to score to win the game...that was an exciting finish
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Old 06-11-2006, 10:41 PM   #69
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Wow, never was really that into baseball, but at least now I'll be a bit more knowledgeable around my friends when they start discussing it. Might even watch a couple of days or so.

Thanks guys!
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that happened at a Vipers game a little while ago...Shorsher for the vipers struck out in the 9th,the catcher missed the ball...he throws to first but the firstbasemen doesnt catch it,and the runner on 3rd comes home to score to win the game...that was an exciting finish
Actually, if we are thinking of the same game, the runner was on first. Advanced to second on the passed ball, to third when the catcher overthrew first, then scored when the first baseman overthrew third.

Exciting finish, but not exactly a great argument for the quality of NorL ball.
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