Brad Treliving is no good?

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Some post-trade interview. Go look it up.

So its a quote from years later? at the time he would have done 8 IMO, especially if Brad paid up. Like brad would hold players feet to the fire for 100k or an extra year but wouldn't lock this down?

Also, Tkachuk said he wanted to re-sign during his exit interveiw after the Dallas series if we are going by his "word"

[Burning Beard]

Treliving needs to pursue a career at Sportsnet. His "in on everything" schtick would fit in wonderfully there.

[Flamesfan05]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He actually started out his tenure very well but as the years passed his affinity for depth forwards and defensemen became costly as he started using draft picks as currency to attain them. It was also strange how he had no problems overpaying UFA's, yet squeezed his own players when it came to contract negotiations. Worst of all, it seems he doesn't learn from his mistakes as he's basically repeated all the same mistakes with the Leafs blowing picks and prospects on depth players while letting Marner (I realize he inherited that issue but he had two years to be proactive) walk for nothing. He's going to leave the Leafs in a situation somewhat similar to the Flames. In shambles.

The wizard was always a piece or two short, bad goalie then bad coaches, the extra pieces he brought in to fill the team were always terrible or useless, Hamonic, Brouwer, Neal, endless number of useless spared dmen and 4th liners. Then he ran out of time when the core left he cause he ####ed them so bad on contract when he had a chance.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So its a quote from years later? at the time he would have done 8 IMO, especially if Brad paid up. Like brad would hold players feet to the fire for 100k or an extra year but wouldn't lock this down?

Also, Tkachuk said he wanted to re-sign during his exit interveiw after the Dallas series if we are going by his "word"

It's a quote from right after he was traded, repeating supposedly the discussion he had at the time. If anything, he was exaggerating his willingness to extend long term IMO, to make himself look good.

[Torture]

wrong thread..

[Macindoc]

The good: initial RFA signings

The bad: trades (especially picks for depth D)

The ugly: UFA signings, cap management, coaching hires

[calumniate]

Laughton being sat tonight along with McMann and Ekman-Larsson.

Laughton has 12 points in 42 games, averaging 13 mins of icetime

[googol]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's a quote from right after he was traded, repeating supposedly the discussion he had at the time. If anything, he was exaggerating his willingness to extend long term IMO, to make himself look good.

Which team has offered their RFAs a bridge contract if they are not in cap trouble? Generally, all great RFAs are signed for the full term. You can pin this one on the GM and not the player.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by googol

Which team has offered their RFAs a bridge contract if they are not in cap trouble? Generally, all great RFAs are signed for the full term. You can pin this one on the GM and not the player.

I'm not saying Treliving shouldn't have offered a longer term. I think it would have been rejected in favour of a shorter term and higher money. Treliving overestimated Tkachuk's desire to stay and thought he'd still be around after the shorter contract (which everyone here thought was perfectly OK at the time).

And frankly, I don't believe anything out of Tkachuk about his intentions back then anyway. He loved the talks with Fla in his RFA neg period.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Some post-trade interview. Go look it up.

Gotcha so you're making stuff up again! Facts!

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It's a quote from right after he was traded, repeating supposedly the discussion he had at the time. If anything, he was exaggerating his willingness to extend long term IMO, to make himself look good.

A quote you can't provide ! Couldn't possibly be you are misremembering?

Facts!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Gotcha so you're making stuff up again! Facts!

A. I never make stuff up and say it's a fact. Tell even one time I did. Show your work.

B. I just looked it up and I was a little wrong - he didn't say 5-6-7, he said 6-7-8. Which I take with a huge grain of salt. It'd be the lowest number, if that, when he's spinning post trade. And he claimed he was told a shorter deal was to "keep the team together" which he "wasn't too happy with".

Then he plays hero and talks about how he did the best for Calgary (except extending of course).

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/matthe...ar-deal-flames

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

A. I never make stuff up and say it's a fact. Tell even one time I did. Show your work.

B. I just looked it up and I was a little wrong - he didn't say 5-6-7, he said 6-7-8. Which I take with a huge grain of salt. It'd be the lowest number, if that, when he's spinning post trade. And he claimed he was told a shorter deal was to "keep the team together" which he "wasn't too happy with".

Then he plays hero and talks about how he did the best for Calgary (except extending of course).

https://dailyhive.com/calgary/matthe...ar-deal-flames

You just state things as fact - As you did here that:

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Tkachuk wasn't signing an 8 year deal. His idea of long term was 5 years - he said so.

But its more that you rag on others for "making stuff up"

I'm glad we could get the correct Fact out - That MT would have signed a 6-8 year deal vs the 5 you claimed.

See how easy it is for someone to misremember. They aren't always making something up.

Maybe this will help you to not be so sure of yourself all the time!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

You just state things as fact - As you did here that:



But its more that you rag on others for "making stuff up"

I'm glad we could get the correct Fact out - That MT would have signed a 6-8 year deal vs the 5 you claimed.

See how easy it is for someone to misremember. They aren't always making something up.

Maybe this will help you to not be so sure of yourself all the time!

I don't call out people for making mistakes - I might point them out. But many are clearly making things up. You can't seem to discern the difference.

[PuckSlap]