[News] Waiver Wire Oct 2 - Prosvetov, Kerins clear. Avs claim Solovyov

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The issue with Kerins is that he is more of a top 6 or bust guy imo. No grit or defense from him

You may be right, he just seems like such a coachable player from my vantage point. He has done just about everything that could be expected of him to this point. I thought he emerged as one of the leaders on the Wranglers, and I think he can tighten up the defensive side of the game.

Hopefully Kerins gets an opportunity in the NHL this year, with the Flames, or elsewhere.

PS: I'm sure the Flames staff are much better talent evaluators than I am. I'm just pulling for the player.

[dino7c]

Kirkland is the only even debatable forward that Kerins might be better than...he is better offensively but not defensively or in the physical department.

[Buff]

Am I the only one wondering about the Columbus player whose name looks like it is Demon Hunt? Interesting name.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ICRed

The precedent that younger players could steal a job from a vets has been a bit of a farce this camp. More so than previous years anyway.

I don't like the way we structured our rosters so that vets were only playing essentially the first night and last night. Vets looked waaay behind it last night.

Vets didn't have to compete with younger players and earn anything. Vets sat and waited for cuts, then got trudged out for one of the most uninspiring efforts I've ever seen in a preseason game. Vets were given nothing to lose and apparently had nothing to prove either. Doesn't feel like there was any internal competition there.

Damn good chance Kerins gets claimed.

We've got too many players. Gridin is ready. If there weren't so many middle/bottom 6 forwards on this roster it would have been a no brainer to keep him up.

Edit: I'm just going to go ahead and say it, Zayne doesn't look ready to me. I know he's too good for the OHL, but I'm not convinced he's ready for the NHL yet either.

Zayne is a 19 year old top 10 pick who set scoring records...he will and should have a much longer leash. He might not be ready for the top pair after one career game lol. Kerins is a guy you can find on waivers daily. Like come on now.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

You may be right, he just seems like such a coachable player from my vantage point. He has done just about everything that could be expected of him to this point. I thought he emerged as one of the leaders on the Wranglers, and I think he can tighten up the defensive side of the game.

Hopefully Kerins gets an opportunity in the NHL this year, with the Flames, or elsewhere.

PS: I'm sure the Flames staff are much better talent evaluators than I am. I'm just pulling for the player.

There will be injuries and I’m sure he’ll be basically the first call up.

[ICRed]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

This is the reality of the NHL when you have multi-million dollar commitments that are guaranteed so I’m a bit perplexed why you’re surprised.

This is what happens every year- no matter what and no matter which team.

Side note, we should claim Schwindt again off Vegas just to f with them haha

Oh i don't remember using the word surprised. I would say disappointed.

I didn't feel this way last year, or the year before. I believe in years past we've had a more even mix in preseason games of both vets and rookies.

This year I believe it was painfully obvious that players like Kuzy, Solo and Bruz have vastly outperformed Bean and Pachal. I would include Miro too but that guy hasn't even got enough mins to make a solid judgement. He's just stuck in hockey purgatory with apparently no plan to get him more mins.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by gvitaly

You may be right, he just seems like such a coachable player from my vantage point. He has done just about everything that could be expected of him to this point. I thought he emerged as one of the leaders on the Wranglers, and I think he can tighten up the defensive side of the game.

Hopefully Kerins gets an opportunity in the NHL this year, with the Flames, or elsewhere.

I think he would have really needed to commit to being gritty if he wanted a spot and that seems hard to coach

[theslymonkey]

1. Kerins is not a NHL center yet. Last night was abundantly clear.
2. Neither is Solo, and he will do best in the A getting reps.
3. Neither goalie is a NHL backup and I'm willing to bet that the Flames backup is not in the system yet.

[dino7c]

Kerins was a -3 and had zero hits in the game of his life
Pospisil pissed the Canucks off to the point they tried (and half succeded) to kill him in a preseason game

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Ugh... there it is

And sorry but, what did Cooley do better than Prosvetov? I guess this isnt a meritocracy. Pros was given the rope of one bad game, whereas a bad preseason wasnt enough to disqualify Cooley.

[ICRed]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Zayne is a 19 year old top 10 pick who set scoring records...he will and should have a much longer leash. He might not be ready for the top pair after one career game lol. Kerins is a guy you can find on waivers daily. Like come on now.

Oh I didn't say anything about top pair mins. There seems to be a tentative air to his game right now. He's playing simple and trying to fit in, thats just not his bag. He will be a stud and I'm just as excited as everyone.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by ICRed

Oh I didn't say anything about top pair mins. There seems to be a tentative air to his game right now. He's playing simple and trying to fit in, thats just not his bag. He will be a stud and I'm just as excited as everyone.

The only way to do it is to play him in the NHL...he will likely be more sheltered in actual games.

I mean Weegar, Ras, Bahl, ect. didn't look NHL readly last night lol

[Buff]

Originally Posted by theslymonkey

1. Kerins is not a NHL center yet. Last night was abundantly clear.
2. Neither is Solo, and he will do best in the A getting reps.
3. Neither goalie is a NHL backup and I'm willing to bet that the Flames backup is not in the system yet.

Conroy is preparing a post for the NHL GMs Swap & Buy Facebook Group:
Wanted:
- Backup goalie with experience
- Draft Picks
- Prospects

May be willing to take all three if you are interested in a Swedish defenseman.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kerins was a -3 and had zero hits in the game of his life
Pospisil pissed the Canucks off to the point they tried (and half succeded) to kill him in a preseason game

And Klapka is safe because he's massive, which compensates for so-so play.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Ugh... there it is

And sorry but, what did Cooley do better than Prosvetov? I guess this isnt a meritocracy. Pros was given the rope of one bad game, whereas a bad preseason wasnt enough to disqualify Cooley.

IMO there is more to it, I'm not sure either guy is long for the NHL backup job

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

As long as Kerins doesnt go to a rival, I look forward to him tearing it up wherever he goes.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

And Klapka is safe because he's massive, which compensates for so-so play.

Klapka bought himself time with his strong finish to the season and WC play...that how it works. Players don't start at zero every camp like some fans think. Like should Kadri be waived because some rookie played better in a preseason game. Of course not.

[PepsiFree]

How in the world does one simultaneously argue that the concept of rookies stealing jobs is a farce because Kerins got sent down and that the 19 year old who vastly outplayed him and is still up isn’t ready for the NHL.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dino7c

IMO there is more to it, I'm not sure either guy is long for the NHL backup job

Yeah, I wonder if the waiver wire or free agent pool will end up being their answer.

[Redrum]

Originally Posted by Bonded

The issue with Kerins is that he is more of a top 6 or bust guy imo. No grit or defense from him

Right, the thing they don't have any of. That's probably the concern.