The 2025 Offseason thread.

[OILFAN #81]

Spoke with Sharks sources. San Jose is looking at right handed D (Ekblad is option 1 and then guys like Pionk) etc to sign this offseason but if that doesn’t work they would trade for one as a plan B. Andersson’s name came up in conversation. He has a 6 team no trade clause and San Jose I’m told is not one of the 6.

Sharks are also high on Vladar and have been told they would like to add him.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I wonder how much GM's are going to put stock into Andersson's plus minus. Is it going to hurt his value or are they going to look past that and value his skill level more. What do we think he can fetch asset wise? I still think he can get a first personally.

Protected 2027 first plus b prospect

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Protected 2027 first plus b prospect

Ya, that sounds about right.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Spoke with Sharks sources. San Jose is looking at right handed D (Ekblad is option 1 and then guys like Pionk) etc to sign this offseason but if that doesn’t work they would trade for one as a plan B. Andersson’s name came up in conversation. He has a 6 team no trade clause and San Jose I’m told is not one of the 6.

Sharks are also high on Vladar and have been told they would like to add him.

Thanks for sharing. We can never have enough people sharing stuff like this.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

So anyone who doesn't think the Flames will be worse next season isn't allowed to talk?

Just like last summer when anyone who didn't think the Flames were bottom 5 wasn't allowed to talk because they were delusional homers.

Flames had 27 regulation losses this season, thats top 8 in the league. They are adding a top rookie that can maybe help in those 3 on 3s. There is reason to belive they MIGHT improve.

1 player won’t change the fortune of this team.

The defence is still patchwork and hopefully Andersson is moved a worse player is pushed up.

We still don’t have a 1st line. So if the plan is to go in with a team led by 30 plus players yeah I’m not expecting them to do much better.

Other teams getting actually have top line centers.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by OILFAN #81

Spoke with Sharks sources. San Jose is looking at right handed D (Ekblad is option 1 and then guys like Pionk) etc to sign this offseason but if that doesn’t work they would trade for one as a plan B. Andersson’s name came up in conversation. He has a 6 team no trade clause and San Jose I’m told is not one of the 6.

Sharks are also high on Vladar and have been told they would like to add him.

Bystadt and Haltunnen would do juuuust fine for Andersson and Vlad's rights.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

1 player won’t change the fortune of this team.

The defence is still patchwork and hopefully Andersson is moved a worse player is pushed up.

We still don’t have a 1st line. So if the plan is to go in with a team led by 30 plus players yeah I’m not expecting them to do much better.

Other teams getting actually have top line centers.

One gifted offensive player likely would have put them in the playoffs this season considering they needed 1-3 points.

Zayne couldn't help them win one more OT? I have more faith in him than that.

The October 2025 Flames will be better on paper than the October 2024 Flames

Frost, Farabee, Zayne, pretty much ensure it IMO. And there will be more additions, again IMO

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dino7c

One gifted offensive player likely would have put them in the playoffs this season considering they needed 1-3 points.

Zayne couldn't help them win one more OT? I have more faith in him than that.

If Parekh takes Andersson's roster spot, I don't see that as ‘a worse player is pushed up’. I'm sure Parekh has work to do before he's as good as Andersson in a good year, but this was Andersson in a painfully bad year – much easier to replace and improve on.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

One gifted offensive player likely would have put them in the playoffs this season considering they needed 1-3 points.

Zayne couldn't help them win one more OT? I have more faith in him than that.

Well he didn’t play this year and this years results don’t carryover to next year.

Teams will likely play them harder. Wolf has book on him ow in the league. I don’t expect him to falter but great goaltending can’t keep a team up every season when you have zero offence.

And we are still missing the stars especially #1C.

San Jose and Anaheim will try to improve in free agency. If they gains 20 points each we drop 20 we are right in that mix. Utah should improve.

We will see what happens in the summer.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

If Parekh takes Andersson's roster spot, I don't see that as ‘a worse player is pushed up’. I'm sure Parekh has work to do before he's as good as Andersson in a good year, but this was Andersson in a painfully bad year – much easier to replace and improve on.

They also won't just do that anyway, with this teams cap space they won't just trade Andersson and not add anything. I'm sure Conroy has his eyes on some young Bahl's (ay yo) out there that can be had for a bargain.

Improving the team while getting younger, so far that is exactly what they've done and I expect it to continue.

[SuperMatt18]

Just stick to the plan of getting younger, build through the draft and with acquisitions of U-25 players.

Andersson, Coleman, and Bean should be on the trade block.

Draft centers with the 2025 picks.

Don't sign any FAs or UFAs to 7/8 year deals if they are 29 years or older.

In the end the NHL is a league of parity right now - you see that in the Eastern conference this year where 7-16 in that conference was pretty tight most of the year.

Next year I expect the West will be the same with San Jose, Nashville and maybe Chicago improving, and the Flames could finish anywhere in that 7-16 range depending how things go.

Just stick to the plan and don't overreact to one seasons results, good or bad.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by supermatt18

just stick to the plan of getting younger, build through the draft and with acquisitions of u-25 players.

Andersson, coleman, and bean should be on the trade block.

Draft centers with the 2025 picks.

Don't sign any fas or ufas to 7/8 year deals if they are 29 or 30 years old.

27?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Might as well get this started. Time to discuss things you want to see, speculation on player movement, draft talk, whatever floats your boat.

I would want to see Conroy trying to trade up in the first round. Even if it is unlikely to be successful, moves need to be attempted to get the best C possible.

D group plan:

• Trade Andersson - Get the best C possible or 2026/7 1st round picks.
• Extend Bahl.
• Let Hanley walk - He's had a good season that should earn him a contract (somewhere else).
• Plan on Parekh, Solovyov, Kuznetsov joining the club.

G group plan:

• Extend Vladar - I think his play has been great later in the season (further from his surgery) and I'd rather see him and Wolf instead of one of our other G in the system.
• Start extension talks with Wolf.

Forward group plan:

• Extend all RFAs ASAP. Priority being Frost, Coronato, Zary, and Klapka.
• Try and offer sheet Bourque for another C in the system with potential.
• Extend Kirkland - Injury aside, I think he earned a chance to stay with the club (even if it's Wranglers).
• Let the other UFAs go.
• If any vets want out, try and trade for 2026 draft capital. Maybe trade Coleman either way if there is a good offer from a team not on his NTL.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well he didn’t play this year and this years results don’t carryover to next year.

Teams will likely play them harder. Wolf has book on him ow in the league. I don’t expect him to falter but great goaltending can’t keep a team up every season when you have zero offence.

And we are still missing the stars especially #1C.

San Jose and Anaheim will try to improve in free agency. If they gains 20 points each we drop 20 we are right in that mix. Utah should improve.

We will see what happens in the summer.

2 or 3 teams improving isn't really relevant...its a 32 team league. Some will get better and some will get worse. I think the Flames are on the upswing...could they have a bad season with injuries or who knows what? sure but right now I don't predict it. Flames were one of the best teams in the stretch drive...pretty sure you said they would fall out badly when other teams picked up their pace and the schedule got hard. Goalposts keep being moved to explain the Flames 94-96 point season.

After adding Frost, Farabee, and getting Backlund and Bahl back they were a different team IMO. Shame about Zary.

If you think the Flames were flukes or lucky the last couple months we have a very different view on things...if anything the Flames were unlucky, incredibly so.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by dino7c

27?

27 what?

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by dino7c

They also won't just do that anyway, with this teams cap space they won't just trade Andersson and not add anything.

Quite true. Though I think they're more likely in the market for an LD this summer. Bahl is the only sure-fire keeper at that position right now. Hanley has done surprisingly well, but he's not getting any younger, and Bean is kind of just there. Solovyov may graduate full-time, but I don't think he's the mainstay they're looking for on the left side.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by dino7c

One gifted offensive player likely would have put them in the playoffs this season considering they needed 1-3 points.

Zayne couldn't help them win one more OT? I have more faith in him than that.

The October 2025 Flames will be better on paper than the October 2024 Flames

Frost, Farabee, Zayne, pretty much ensure it IMO. And there will be more additions, again IMO

If nothing else, Zayne instantly makes the Flames PP better. They desperately need someone like him who can QB the PP. And he probably thrives in 3 on 3 as well.

The idea that the Flames can't be better next season is crazy to me.

Hey look, we agreed on something.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Well he didn’t play this year and this years results don’t carryover to next year.

Teams will likely play them harder. Wolf has book on him ow in the league. I don’t expect him to falter but great goaltending can’t keep a team up every season when you have zero offence.

And we are still missing the stars especially #1C.

San Jose and Anaheim will try to improve in free agency. If they gains 20 points each we drop 20 we are right in that mix. Utah should improve.

We will see what happens in the summer.

What is the book on Wolf?

Great anticipation and reading of the play and elite lateral mobility?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by dino7c

2 or 3 teams improving isn't really relevant...its a 32 team league. Some will get better and some will get worse. I think the Flames are on the upswing...could they have a bad season with injuries or who knows what? sure but right now I don't predict it. Flames were one of the best teams in the stretch drive...pretty sure you said they would fall out badly when other teams picked up their pace.

After adding Frost, Farabee, and getting Backlund and Bahl back they were a different team IMO. Shame about Zary.

Backlund is old. Coleman is old. Kadri is old. They won’t keep improving. Frost and Farabe might make up for their drop off but if end up trading 1 or 2 of those guys that offence is gone as well.

Team improving is very relevant because they are in our division and could be taking wins from us.

The team was .500 for a good portion until the 5 nations game.

Build through the draft. Stay away from free agency. Because we are in my opinion far off from being a consistent playoff challenger. We dont have the star players, and going out and trading for more support players just has us spinning our wheels.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I wonder how much GM's are going to put stock into Andersson's plus minus. Is it going to hurt his value or are they going to look past that and value his skill level more. What do we think he can fetch asset wise? I still think he can get a first personally.

Was thinking the same thing. No idea what they will do with his situation. One of our best players at the start of the season. Leader in the room. Disaster the last couple of months.

Will be an interesting decision