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Old 03-28-2025, 05:23 PM   #61
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I only ever wanted them to follow their bliss. Both are musicians and very happy.
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Old 03-28-2025, 05:24 PM   #62
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Astronaut.

Or professional athlete.

Ideally, both.
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Old 03-28-2025, 05:34 PM   #64
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I haven't outright told them yet (because too young), but I've been and will be intentionally in ensuring that they have a variety of skillsets. Be well rounded in your knowledge, skills and capacity and from there, choose something that you feel you want to independently pursue.

"White collar" skillsets, "blue collar" skillsets, artistic skillsets, mental health skillsets etc. They don't have to master all the skillsets. They just need to be competent enough to understand how to avoid being exposed to the lack of these skillsets and/or aware of how to get a basic idea of learning these skillsets going forward.

My reasoning for this is that I don't know how the landscape will look like in the future. I'd rather equip my children to be able to maneuver around the landscape without major roadblocks vs accidentally betting on a certain career or skillset that becomes obsolete/de-valued in the future. This is especially important if somehow they are the generation trapped in between transitions of a major disruptive technology of some sort.
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Old 03-28-2025, 05:36 PM   #65
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Next decade?

We are pretty far from having robots that could, for example, walk into a construction site and just start painting, or even walk along uneven ground outside a home. Even if we could somehow get to that point, no one is going to trust a robot to do framing or electrical work without direct supervision. It's far more likely that we see people in exo-suits before we have robots actually doing that work.

Robots are nowhere near doing the most basic labour tasks, let alone the trades that require a great deal of experience and thought.

If anything, prefab is a great worry for people in the trades. Even then, you still need people to maintain and repair that work.
Robots can already do the most basic tasks and its increasing exponentially. Go watch some of the newer insane videos and the monthly progress.

You think we are far off having a robot paint? That super skilled job that college students do it in the offseason with zero training.

Or drywall. Or framing. Or Flooring. Laying Carpet. Roofing.

These aren't hard things. It's coming and it's coming fast.

Electicain, Welder, Hvac, etc will take longer for sure. But the more unskilled trades will be mostly automated in the next decade easily.
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Old 03-28-2025, 05:40 PM   #66
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Robots can already do the most basic tasks and its increasing exponentially. Go watch some of the newer insane videos and the monthly progress.

You think we are far off having a robot paint? That super skilled job that college students do it in the offseason with zero training.

Or drywall. Or framing. Or Flooring. Laying Carpet. Roofing.

These aren't hard things. It's coming and it's coming fast.

Electicain, Welder, Hvac, etc will take longer for sure. But the more unskilled trades will be mostly automated in the next decade easily.
Musk tried to get robots to pour drinks, and it later came out that all the robots were actually puppets, as they can't do those simple tasks yet. We're definitely more than 10 years away from having a team of robots show up at a site with materials and getting down to work.

Also, the robots cost millions of dollars right to build right now. The student painters get paid around minimum wage.
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I only ever wanted them to follow their bliss. Both are musicians and very happy.
True dat

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Old 03-28-2025, 05:52 PM   #68
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If I was talking to around 16 year olds who were not sure of their place I would point them in the direction of industrial skilled trades. Millwright, pipefitter and welders are going to be in high demand. Welding in particular because of higher standards, if you are good you will never have to look for work. Specialties in instrumentation, automation and electrical systems as well.



If we want to achieve our resource independence like we all say we need to desperately promote these trades at the high school level.
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Old 03-28-2025, 06:10 PM   #69
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Robots can already do the most basic tasks and its increasing exponentially. Go watch some of the newer insane videos and the monthly progress.

You think we are far off having a robot paint? That super skilled job that college students do it in the offseason with zero training.

Or drywall. Or framing. Or Flooring. Laying Carpet. Roofing.

These aren't hard things. It's coming and it's coming fast.

Electicain, Welder, Hvac, etc will take longer for sure. But the more unskilled trades will be mostly automated in the next decade easily.
We already have robot pressure welders for shop fabrication. They are good for larger pipe size. It’s pretty neat. Auto industry is almost entirely automatic welding.
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Old 03-28-2025, 06:14 PM   #70
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To the original question, I just make sure my kids don't sit in the basement playing video games all day and night. The amount of early 20-somethings I see doing that is insane. There's no way that ends well.
I have always thought that the 20s is a very important for young people to establish themselves workwise. In the old days many of the top scientists used to peak at about age 30. However, these days their peak at a much older age, even right up until their 70s.

I have always looked at work as being in 3 stages. Stage 1 the education stage, Stage 2 the experience stage, and stage 3 the "cashing in" stage where you start your own business or join a company and get a piece of the action e.g. stock option.
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Old 03-28-2025, 06:23 PM   #71
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Maybe it would be better to teach them the mental and emotional fortitude, to have their hopes and dreams crushed multiple times.

There are a lot of us hollowed out husks out there that were taught to just bottle it up and swallow it. We are going to take a few more shots at the brass ring and then fall dead.

Kids should be taught to handle it better.
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I’d tell them to dabble in as many jobs that they find interesting while they are young and it doesn’t really matter yet. I bounced around so many things, saw so much cool and interesting stuff. Helped me be a more rounded individual in my career as a whole.
This is the way. You have around 10 years of working life before a mortgage and having a family narrow options. Use that time to try different stuff. Manual labour to gain confidence with doing physical stuff stuff; restaurant industry to work in jobs where coworkers socialize and hang out after work; work with other young people to meet friends and partners; work outdoors because you’re unlikely to get that in your adult jobs; work with people of different socio-economic backgrounds to learn empathy; work in another country just to experience what it’s like.
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Old 03-28-2025, 06:30 PM   #73
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I'd advise them to get into the right wing griftosphere. Seems like damn easy money.
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Old 03-28-2025, 06:51 PM   #74
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I saw that Vandelay Industries is looking for a latex salesman.
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Old 03-28-2025, 07:01 PM   #75
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I'd recommend a career to them that:

1. Won't breakdown their body
2. Doesn't involve shift work
3. Doesn't require travel (unless they want that starting out)
4. Pays well
5. Involves work they don't hate

That sums up my career as a lawyer.
The faq you talking about.

You can't have #5 AND be a lawyer.

Me as a student: I'm thinking of law school
Every lawyer i said that to: Good God don't do it
Me: hahaha you're funny

Me as a law student: I'm in law school
Every lawyer: Good God don't do it
Me: hahaha you're funny

Me now: ahhhh you're weren't joking!


Seriously though. I'm going to encourage my kids to do what they want, find something they don't hate and to work hard at it.

Ideally, something with a good pension and that has good benefits.
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Old 03-28-2025, 07:11 PM   #76
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My kid played hockey his whole life and it was his life. Buddys drafted by nhl teams and still chasing it. He just up
And quit when we were signing papers to play with Spruce Grove. Now he’s in university for finance and has taken up guitar. Weird music nerd now. Has 5 guitars. He plays Jonny Greenwood stuff, he didn’t know that’s my favorite band.

Plays intramural hockey with buddies and he’s the best player that no one would expect to be good and he finally loves it. I think he thinks he’s disappointed me but absolutely not. My brother is/was a musician that now makes avengers movies in New Zealand. Chase it trout. I never did or will. I gotta make money for those buggers to chase.

And never be scared to change your mind and course. Something I never did and should have.
I’m working p/t at the Legion (VLTs), and liquor store (booze). I just now need jobs at a cannabis store and adult shop so I can cater to all the addictions.

Glad my sons aren’t going into law.
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I only ever wanted them to follow their bliss. Both are musicians and very happy.
Long-term, that usually requires supportive parents and spouses - and not just emotionally supportive, but materially supportive.
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Old 03-28-2025, 08:30 PM   #78
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I would say, do something that you're interested in. You don't have to "love it" but finding it interesting is helpful.

Otherwise, I would say find something that does not destroy your body.
That includes sedentary work right? Cause that destroys your body if you don't have an active lifestyle outside of work.
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I wouldn’t “tell” my kids to do anything. We’ve raised smart kids and raised right. They’ll do well — and are.

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I believe research has shown that a child's work ethic in later life generally patterns after his/her parents.
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