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Old 05-13-2025, 04:18 PM   #61
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Shoeless Joe threw a World Series - he should have remained banned - but he was eligible before and never got voted in so doubt he would now.

Rose is the interesting one as I don't think he ever bet against his own team or threw a game. Personally I think he should be in the HoF.
Isn't the story that shoeless Joe didn't participate in the throwing of games? IDK, a little before my time.
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Old 05-13-2025, 04:35 PM   #62
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Wait. You aren't 106 plus years old?
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Old 05-13-2025, 05:43 PM   #63
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The only thing I know about the case for or against Shoeless Joe Jackson is what I learned from Field of Dreams.
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The only thing I know about the case for or against Shoeless Joe Jackson is what I learned from Field of Dreams.
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Dispute over Jackson's guilt

Jackson's involvement in the scandal remains controversial to this day. He reportedly refused the $5,000 bribe twice—even though it would effectively double his salary—only to have teammate#Lefty Williams#toss the cash on the floor of his hotel room. Jackson then tried to tell White Sox owner#Charles Comiskey#about the fix. Still, Comiskey refused to meet with him.[28]#Unable to afford legal counsel, Jackson was represented by team attorney Alfred Austrian—a clear conflict of interest. Before Jackson's#grand jury#testimony, Austrian allegedly elicited Jackson's admission of his supposed role in the fix by plying him with whiskey.[20]#Austrian also persuaded the nearly illiterate Jackson to sign a waiver of immunity from prosecution.[28]

Years later, the other seven players implicated in the scandal confirmed that Jackson was never at any meetings. Williams said they only mentioned Jackson's name to give their plot more credibility, although he did not say why Jackson would have been paid $5,000 had that been the case. Jackson's performance during the series itself lends further credence to his assertions, although the game records show that he hit far better during the "clean" games than those thrown.[20]#A 1993 article in#The American Statistician#reported the results of a statistical analysis of Jackson's contribution during the 1919 World Series and concluded that there was "substantial support to Jackson's subsequent claims of innocence".[29]

An article in the September 2009 issue of#Chicago Lawyer#magazine argued that#Eliot Asinof's 1963 book#Eight Men Out, purporting to confirm Jackson's guilt, was based on inaccurate information. For example, Jackson never confessed to throwing the series as Asinof claimed. Further, Asinof omitted key facts from publicly available documents, such as the 1920 grand jury records and proceedings of Jackson's successful 1924 lawsuit against Comiskey to recover back pay for the 1920 and 1921 seasons. Asinof's use of fictional characters within a supposedly non-fiction account also damaged#

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Rockies now at 8-40. They won a 14-12 game vs the D-Backs on Saturdsy that had me worried. Please find a way to go 2-8 in your next 10 to keep the dream alive!
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Old 05-29-2025, 10:11 AM   #67
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Old 05-29-2025, 10:39 AM   #68
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Rockies now at 8-40. They won a 14-12 game vs the D-Backs on Saturdsy that had me worried. Please find a way to go 2-8 in your next 10 to keep the dream alive!
I'm concerned about the Rockies terrible play. I was lucky last year to have witnessed history. The game where the Detroit Tigers clinched a Wild Card spot was the same game that the Chicago White Sox set the record for the most losses in Modern history. Looks like a lock that there will be a new team in that category only a year later.
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I'm concerned about the Rockies terrible play. I was lucky last year to have witnessed history. The game where the Detroit Tigers clinched a Wild Card spot was the same game that the Chicago White Sox set the record for the most losses in Modern history. Looks like a lock that there will be a new team in that category only a year later.
Well the Rockies now sit at 9-49 on the season. So long as they can avoid a 2 game winning streak here, that's 60 games in which they manage 1 win every 6 games. That paces out for a total of 27 wins. I hope they don't screw this up and go on a tera that see's them finish with like 43 wins. I want to see a team lose more than 130 games. Afterall you know someone will feel the urge to beat that next year.
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They got to 9-50! They do play the Marlins here...so hopefully they don't win more than a game in this series. If teams like Atlanta and Arizona start playing better, this is a pretty tough month that they Rockies have too.
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They got to 9-50! They do play the Marlins here...so hopefully they don't win more than a game in this series. If teams like Atlanta and Arizona start playing better, this is a pretty tough month that they Rockies have too.
That's really crazy.

If the Rockies played .500 the rest of the year, they'd still lose 100 games.
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Old 06-02-2025, 04:01 PM   #72
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Scottie Scheffler has as many wins since May 4th as the Rockies do.
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Marlins might end up costing us some Rockies greatness, that series in Denver in September is terrifying.
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Old 06-03-2025, 08:12 PM   #74
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Yeah, stupid Marlins. Now the Rockies need to lose 9 of 10 again to set the world right.
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I feel like getting swept by the Rockies should result in instant relegation to AAA. Or maybe the Marlins should inherit the Rockies record and now they are 12-50 and the Rockies are 24-36.
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Sounds like Devers has been traded to SF for Hicks and pieces
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