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Old 02-25-2025, 02:06 PM   #61
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All this "conceding a loss" talk...you know what's going to happen, right? Vladar is going to stand on his head and prove everyone wrong.

If I've learned one thing about the Flames over the years, it's that they always do the exact opposite of what you expect from them, both for good and bad.
Yes, this! We'll see an unexpected win tonight.
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Old 02-25-2025, 02:24 PM   #62
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It's probably wanting to give Vladar an early game on this trip due to the time off, so he's not super rusty. His last game was Feb 2nd which is 3 weeks ago now.

But yeah that's a bit crazy when you need to get a good start on this road trip.



I thought Solo looked good but that Andersson was a tire fire in that game.
It's almost like who you're playing with - and against - matters.

Expected goals for and against are absolutely atrocious at assessing how well an individual player performed. Especially for single game sample sizes.
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Old 02-25-2025, 02:29 PM   #63
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Vladar is not an NHL goalie. Why not call up someone else if Wolf needs rest?
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Old 02-25-2025, 02:41 PM   #64
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Vladar gets most of the tougher games, so not a surprise if he starts.
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Old 02-25-2025, 02:46 PM   #65
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Except when it was Toronto, Colorado....

Pat on 960 tying himself into knots trying to justify the start but even his cohost admits to being surprised.

And good on Aaron Vickers for calling out the quote from Huska about starting Wolf 15 times if they had to cause they need points.

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This Vladar surprise start, is starting to feel like, IMO, orders from above. I saw somewhere earlier mentioned that Vladar is the only current flame in trade rumours. Maybe a few teams have asked for a quick look?

I dunno I'm grasping at straws here.
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Old 02-25-2025, 03:16 PM   #67
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Unless Wolf is sick this is just plain bad coaching.
I don't know how that is bad coaching. We're entering murderers row on this road trip, Vladar is going to have to play a game or two. He's had a long layoff, so I think getting him game action isn't a bad idea. Also, they could be showcasing for a trade so they may want to get him some more games leading up to the deadline.
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Old 02-25-2025, 03:23 PM   #68
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Maybe they can bump his value enough to squeeze a pick out of a trade?
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Bump is value to what? What is the expectation for a goalie with a .888 save % and 3.07 GAA?

Why would any team trade for that. Career .893
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Old 02-25-2025, 03:34 PM   #70
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Vladar has been off too long and needs to play at some point. Wolf already got back in action, and now Vladar needs to get in for a game that is likely projected as a loss regardless of who starts. The way Washington is rolling right now, tonight's game might be the least winnable of the trip. Maybe Wolf can steal two or three of the other games on this roadie, as he will likely start four of the five remaining games.

Then again, maybe Wolf is sick or is nursing a minor injury.

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Old 02-25-2025, 03:35 PM   #71
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Bump is value to what? What is the expectation for a goalie with a .888 save % and 3.07 GAA?

Why would any team trade for that. Career .893
If a team needs a goalie heading into the playoff push, Vladar is a decent option. I'm sure GMs and scouts aren't going to solely rely on numbers and watch the games to see how he performs under the eye test. If he has some solid games going into the deadline I could definitely see that convincing a GM who is in need of a cheap goalie.
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That Dylan Strome, what an awful hockey player. It's a real wonder that he's the #1C on the best team in the league, with far more points than anyone on our roster when he's so slow and doesn't play Defense. I am glad that the flames never even offered him a contract because he wasnt their type of player.
Flames were at the salary cap prior to the 23-24 season and actually had to move Toffoli to even get below the cap ceiling.

Flames made no major free agent signings heading into the season because they didn't have any space to do so. They also had a ton of upcoming UFAs and could really commit to cap space at the time.

They also had Lindholm, Kadri, and Backlund as top 9 centers - so why would Strome have picked Calgary over Washington who was offering top 6 minutes with Ovechkin.

Sure I guess they could have shipped out a bunch of salary and probably got poor returns since cap space was at such a premium that offseason, to try to make room to sign Strome, but that likely wasn't really an option.
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Bahl, Solovyov, and Pachal

Team just got a whole lot bigger from a few games ago.
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If a team needs a goalie heading into the playoff push, Vladar is a decent option. I'm sure GMs and scouts aren't going to solely rely on numbers and watch the games to see how he performs under the eye test. If he has some solid games going into the deadline I could definitely see that convincing a GM who is in need of a cheap goalie.
I think he is a better goalie than people give him credit for. His stats are pretty reflective of the team and how almost everyone predicted the Flames would be this year. It's no secret that Wolf has been exceptional and therefore raising where the Flames should be at the moment. I think if you put Vladar on a great team, he probably looks like a good back-up option.

I'm not saying he has high trade value, but he doesn't suck as bad as people are saying. He reflects what a team is, whereas Wolf covers a lot of warts.

Having said that, he is coming in cold today, on the road, against the top team in the East. I am expecting a lot of people to have their bias confirmed today.
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I was hoping this would happen.

Miromanov era is over me thinks.
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Old 02-25-2025, 09:46 PM   #78
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That Dylan Strome, what an awful hockey player. It's a real wonder that he's the #1C on the best team in the league, with far more points than anyone on our roster when he's so slow and doesn't play Defense. I am glad that the flames never even offered him a contract because he wasnt their type of player.
I missed the part where the Flames had an option on him.

Maybe you should save your sneering for Chicago, who lost him for nothing by not making him a qualifying offer in 2022.
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If a team needs a goalie heading into the playoff push, Vladar is a decent option. I'm sure GMs and scouts aren't going to solely rely on numbers and watch the games to see how he performs under the eye test. If he has some solid games going into the deadline I could definitely see that convincing a GM who is in need of a cheap goalie.
He has a lot more experience than most guys who would be available as a backup at the TDL.
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