02-10-2025, 11:56 AM
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#61
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Huberdeau - Kadri - Zary
Farabee - Frost - Sharangovich
Coleman-Backlund-Coronato
Pospisil - Kerins - Klapka
Lomberg
Trade Rooney
Bahl - Andersson
Bean - Weegar
Solovyov - Pachal
Hanley
Waive Barrie and try to trade Miromanov.
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People joke about Huberdeau being untradeable, but Miromanov and Rooney are the truly untradeable contracts on the Flames right now.
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02-10-2025, 11:58 AM
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#62
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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I still have a feeling someone is going to give up a late pick for Rooney at the deadline
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02-10-2025, 12:01 PM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
I still have a feeling someone is going to give up a late pick for Rooney at the deadline
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Treliving maybe. He seems to like adding replacement level depth players. Bollig, Carpenter, and Rooney himself.
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02-10-2025, 12:22 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
People joke about Huberdeau being untradeable, but Miromanov and Rooney are the truly untradeable contracts on the Flames right now.
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Not really - Rooney is a UFA and Miromanov only has one more year @ $1.3.
Sure, they’re both blah, but you can disappear their money easily enough.
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02-10-2025, 12:26 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by boogerz
People joke about Huberdeau being untradeable, but Miromanov and Rooney are the truly untradeable contracts on the Flames right now.
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Huberdeau is quite a bit more untradeable than those guys.
Simply due to term and dollars.
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02-10-2025, 12:33 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Some team would trade a 6th for Rooney as a 13th forward center that can play on the PK and added playoff depth.
Miromanov I could see a team taking a flyer too - RH dmen are just really hard to find and some team would probably be willing to take a flyer.
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02-10-2025, 12:37 PM
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#67
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Underground
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Huberdeau - Kadri - Farabee/Pospisil
Sharangovic/Coronato - Frost - Underpants
Pospisil/Farabee - Zary - Profit
Coleman - Backlund - Coronato/Sharangovich
I'm usually not good at these, but a few anchoring thoughts:
- feel strongly that Farabee is the best complement for Kadri - Huberdeau. His game is basically to get to the crease whenever possible, and that's what you want with a passer like Huberdeau and a 'must create my own shot at all times' guy like Kadri. For example, I thought Coronato was a poor fit up there because he needs shots and Kadri isn't giving up any of his attempts. If not Farabee, then put Pospisil there to cause havoc.
- I would like to separate Zary and Sharangovich. Zary was very intent on creating his own offense and trying to juke defenders... not a good match for Sharangovich imo.
- I like Coleman - Backlund - Coronato. I think Coronato gets a lot of looks on that line and the other two aren't prolific shooters. Good fit. If not Coronato, then I'd try to work in Sharangovich... I think Coleman could swap wings no problem.
- Frost looks versatile. I think he could work with Sharangovich on the wing, or with Coronato on the wing.
Dunno what you do with Lomberg. Rooney is expendable imo with 4 better centers pending Zary's return. I'd rather call up a Wrangler to fill some of these winger slots.
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02-10-2025, 01:05 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
He should ramp up his swearing in the dressing room until the Flames' social media team has to upload a postgame video that's completely silent, rather than the 40% silent most are now.
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I love those videos but they just re-affirm for me that Huska is a fantastic speaker and motivator but has no clue how to use this team or coach forwards. There is a reason this team can't score and it isn't lack of talent.
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02-10-2025, 01:10 PM
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#69
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Some team would trade a 6th for Rooney as a 13th forward center that can play on the PK and added playoff depth.
Miromanov I could see a team taking a flyer too - RH dmen are just really hard to find and some team would probably be willing to take a flyer.
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Rooney is a 4th line C making $1.3M who can't win faceoffs and hasn't been an advanced stats darling on any team he's played on. Maybe another team trades a 7th round pick for him, but there are cheaper options on the waiver wire for cap-strapped contenders.
Absolutely no one is trading for Miromanov though. He's a #7 offensive dman that doesn't put up points, doesn't defend particularly well, and has another year left at $1.25M. Conroy is definitely stuck with that contract
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02-10-2025, 01:22 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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If you can get anything for Rooney you take it, start the car and drive it like you stole it.
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02-10-2025, 01:37 PM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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Train beers
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02-10-2025, 01:42 PM
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#72
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
My bigger concern is Zary. I don’t want him moved back to wing unless he really struggles playing centre when he comes back from injury.
I don’t think Backlund and Coleman’s minutes will take too much of a hit because they will still both be relied on heavily for the penalty kill and potentially parts of the powerplays. Unlike the previous 4th line, they will not be sat for the 3rd period. Minutes will spread more evenly across the line up. I’m fine with any of those lines facing the top lines of other teams - even the Klapka-Zary-Coronato line as they have all shown a decent to strong defensive game. The lines I’m hoping for makes it so there isn’t really a weak line any more and there is potential for a brand new line (Klapka-Zary-Coronato) to really pop and become a scoring threat.
Keeping Coronato with Backlund and Coleman and keeping the 4th line as the weaker line that often gets exposed seems like a lot of the same we’ve seen lately.
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To me it's about 5 on 5 minutes.
If Backlund is playing shot down he's getting 14.
That leaves you 33 for Kadri, Zary and Frost ... 11 each?
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02-10-2025, 01:46 PM
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#73
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FBI
I think we should give Morton a try.. He's older more seasoned..
But yeah my eye test shows Rooney being terrible on the PK.. There's another place he needs to be removed from.
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I agree.
He's the right vintage, and you're not stunting his offensive development. I think he's likely a 20 point NHL max.
Kerins I wouldn't do.
He has more developing to do, and it shouldn't be in a limited minute fourth line role.
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02-10-2025, 01:48 PM
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#74
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Honest question, can he do that? The PK has been atrocious all year, and it's often Backlund and Rooney out on the first cycle of forwards. I haven't dug into the numbers, but they haven't done a great job all year from what I've seen. Backlund's decline isn't just restricted to his 5 v 5 performance.
But that said, I love to dump Rooney, but for who? Who do we have that can play replacement level center on the 4th line? This is where a shrewd waiver pick up could help out, not unlike picking up Pachal last year.
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That's a tough one too because Backlund/Rooney tend to get PP1 as a matchup.
So they are doing the heavier lifting.
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02-10-2025, 02:12 PM
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#75
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Scoring Winger
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Backlund and Coleman are PK1
Huberdeau and Rooney are PK2
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02-10-2025, 02:14 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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I understand he's been learning the 'Austin' dance and is rather dashing in a Cowboy hat.
He's spending his free time productively at line dancing classes.
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02-10-2025, 02:19 PM
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#77
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by camm13
Backlund and Coleman are PK1
Huberdeau and Rooney are PK2
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Nope ... Backlund is PK1
He has either Rooney or Coleman depending.
Backlund most PK minutes, and he's had more time with Rooney than Coleman.
Coleman getting Backlund time when Rooney is scratched.
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02-10-2025, 02:35 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I love those videos but they just re-affirm for me that Huska is a fantastic speaker and motivator but has no clue how to use this team or coach forwards. There is a reason this team can't score and it isn't lack of talent.
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You may be well right about his coaching, but Calgary certainly lacks scoring talent.
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02-10-2025, 02:35 PM
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#79
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
My bigger concern is Zary. I don’t want him moved back to wing unless he really struggles playing centre when he comes back from injury.
I don’t think Backlund and Coleman’s minutes will take too much of a hit because they will still both be relied on heavily for the penalty kill and potentially parts of the powerplays. Unlike the previous 4th line, they will not be sat for the 3rd period. Minutes will spread more evenly across the line up. I’m fine with any of those lines facing the top lines of other teams - even the Klapka-Zary-Coronato line as they have all shown a decent to strong defensive game. The lines I’m hoping for makes it so there isn’t really a weak line any more and there is potential for a brand new line (Klapka-Zary-Coronato) to really pop and become a scoring threat.
Keeping Coronato with Backlund and Coleman and keeping the 4th line as the weaker line that often gets exposed seems like a lot of the same we’ve seen lately.
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Keep Zary at C, he's more effective there because it allows him to operate in a larger part of the ice surface. Completely rethink the 4th line, and use Backlund and Coleman as its foundation. They're responsible for the tough match-ups, but otherwise roll all lines with equal ice time. Think of it more as four 2nd lines. Give the Zary and Kadri lines the PP time, and use the other two lines for the PK. Maybe give Frost a few extra minutes with PP1 and PK2 time (Huby, Kadri, Frost, and Coronato on PP1, Sharky, Zary, Farabee, and two D on PP2 for a different look, or could add Coleman up front instead). Backlund will do better with a bit less ice time than he is currently playing, and will probably benefit from the break more than any other Flame who is not currently on IR, as he is reportedly nursing an injury.
Last edited by Macindoc; 02-10-2025 at 02:48 PM.
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02-10-2025, 03:02 PM
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#80
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Why do we have to have a 4th line that's a grinder/energy line? NhL teams have historically bern built that way because of a lack of talent and goonery as a part of the game. Under the salary cap, it's about salary distribution. For the Oilers a 4th line of grinders that get 6 or 7 minutes makes sense.
But the Flames are nowhere near the cap and they don't really have any stars. Their strength as a forward corps is depth. Why not roll 4 balanced lines that can score? Why have Kerins in the AHL when he's the most productive player on the Flames and we don't scores enough goals? What is Rooney really bringing?
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