02-05-2025, 04:44 PM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
Meh. I never fault someone for trying to extend their career as long as possible, because when it's over, it's over.
If he loves the game, and wanted to keep it going as long as possible - I can't fault him at all.
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Stuff like that always reminds me of Mike Keane. Over 1150 NHL games, 3 Cups, team captain - and when he couldn't hack it in the NHL anymore, he played another 5 seasons in the AHL with his hometown Moose.
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02-05-2025, 05:02 PM
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#62
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Scoring Winger
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Solovyov has been the most consistent and NHL ready looking d-man on the Wranglers. I’ve thought he deserved a call up. I think he can perform as well or better than our d-men that have been rotating in and out. He is younger and with room to grow and improve.
He should steady the back end compared to Barrie for sure but doesn’t have Barrie’s big shot from the blue line. My eye test said Barrie was giving up more than he was creating in offense. Overall should be an improvement.
I can’t clearly say anyone else on the farm looks consistently ready.
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02-05-2025, 05:07 PM
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#63
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Samonadreau
who. doesn't. like a solid D
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They're giving it all they've got captain!
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02-05-2025, 05:30 PM
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#64
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Caged Great
Realistically, this team needs one more defenseman after Bahl gets back.
Bahl-Andersson
Weegar-Solovyov
Bean-Pachal
Is okay for the time being, but getting someone to push the lesser of Solovyov/Bean down to #7 is ideal.
Frankly the less we see of Miromanov and Hanley the better. To me, they are as bad as Rooney has been, which I would also like to see Backlund shifted down to #4 C when Zary comes back. Not because Backlund should see less time on ice, but rather to upgrade the #4 C to someone better than Rooney.
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Hanley was playing pretty well this year as a 6/7, but seeing him get slotted into Bahl's position and out there on PK, he's just in way over his head.
I'm glad to see Solovyov get the call. Would be nice to see a few of the young defencemen get some time in the NHL this year to see how they handle it before going into the offseason. They need to figure out if they need to go out and get another top four defender.
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02-05-2025, 06:12 PM
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#65
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Franchise Player
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Hanley I think has stepped up effectively as a #4. I wasn't sure that he could, though obviously Weegar is a fairly easy guy to play with.
Bean has been really good there now. I didn't think he would be this good, to be honest, but he has been. He is earning continued opportunity game in and game out IMO.
Barrie is just done I think. He seems like a liability on the offensive blue-line with his lack of footspeed, and the defensive deficiencies are not something that you can live given his good - but not great - offensive ability. I think right now he is a great #7 - great in the room, every player loves Barrie, and he is one of those guys that helps keep the room loose apparently. However, he should only be coming in when the injury bug hits the team.
Miromanov has been better than Barrie has in my eyes, but I think he is at best the #7 next season. I think Conroy either includes him in a trade this season, or he gets waived at the start of next season and either gets claimed or plays on the Wranglers. It was weird watching him last season - he didn't quite pass the eye test, but his underlying metrics showed that he was something. Maybe he was being carried by Weegar? Or maybe he has just been overthinking things too much? I don't know, but right now I see a replacement level player.
Solovyov has a legitimate shot to solidfy himself as an NHL'er at the moment. There is a small sliver open in the doorway until Bahl returns. Hopefully he grabs this opportunity and makes it really difficult for Conroy to send him back. I like his physicality, I think he has decent foot-speed, I like how he doesn't try to do too much and get himself into trouble, and I think he moves the puck well. I also think there is more offence to his game than he shows - I think he passes well, and he has a fairly good shot from the back. Hopefully he shows enough for Huska to keep feeding him minutes to find out what he really is.
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02-05-2025, 06:21 PM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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I’ve really liked Bean, is he on a one year deal? I wouldn’t mind re-signing him.
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02-05-2025, 06:25 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Sandman
I’ve really liked Bean, is he on a one year deal? I wouldn’t mind re-signing him.
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He signed a two-year deal.
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02-05-2025, 06:40 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sandman
I’ve really liked Bean, is he on a one year deal? I wouldn’t mind re-signing him.
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What have you liked about him? Honest question.
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02-05-2025, 07:25 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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Thinking that’s the end of Barrie and Miromanov.
Barrie is way to slow.
Miromanov is always out of position.
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02-05-2025, 08:25 PM
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#70
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Lifetime Suspension
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Waiting for the experts to chime in. Don't know a thing about this guy. Fun interview though!
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02-05-2025, 08:32 PM
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#71
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Goriders
Thinking that’s the end of Barrie and Miromanov.
Barrie is way to slow.
Miromanov is always out of position.
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Barrie is also always out of position.
But that’s probably because he’s too slow.
Miromanov is probably always out of position because he’s a converted winger who should never have been converted. He keeps forgetting where he’s supposed to be.
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02-06-2025, 08:13 AM
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#72
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by dissentowner
I don't care what the stats say, I see this guy turn over pucks all the time in his own zone and make boneheaded decisions. I think this is more a testament to his partner.
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I think Weegar is a huge factor for sure.
But he couldn't elevate Miromanov, so Bean has something there. Weegar did excellent with Hanley too.
Just saying lets see where this goes.
Bean has had good numbers all year ... at first on the third pairing and protected, but now his numbers continue in an elevated role.
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02-06-2025, 08:18 AM
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#73
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Truculent!
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Hanley and Weegar have the 11th highest expected goals percentage in the league when they play together.
Let's do more of that.
Bean and Pachal are next at 62 (which would be right or near the top of a second pairing stats/numbers).
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02-06-2025, 08:26 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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I just don't get how people just take these stats at face value.
Which of these statements is more likely/plausible/realistic?:
Hanley-Weegar is an elite defensive pairing
Hanley-Weegar, in an admittedly very small sample-sizing, have been fortunate in their matchups, so far this season.
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02-06-2025, 08:29 AM
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#75
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I just don't get how people just take these stats at face value.
Which of these statements is more likely/plausible/realistic?:
Hanley-Weegar is an elite defensive pairing
Hanley-Weegar, in an admittedly very small sample-sizing, have been fortunate in their matchups, so far this season.
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17 games is a small sample size?
What's an acceptable sample size for you?
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Originally Posted by Poe969
It's the Law of E=NG. If there was an Edmonton on Mars, it would stink like Uranus.
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02-06-2025, 08:31 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Jake Bean is #1 on the Flames in the last ten games for xGF% five on five.
Good things are happening when he's on the ice.
Don't be fooled by his lack of offensive acumen.
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Now we need to find a capable NHL Defenceman whose last name is 'Frank' to pair him with.
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02-06-2025, 08:32 AM
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#77
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I just don't get how people just take these stats at face value.
Which of these statements is more likely/plausible/realistic?:
Hanley-Weegar is an elite defensive pairing
Hanley-Weegar, in an admittedly very small sample-sizing, have been fortunate in their matchups, so far this season.
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Another explanation: Weegar is better on the right side than the left.
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02-06-2025, 08:34 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wastedyouth
17 games is a small sample size?
What's an acceptable sample size for you?
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A year - 2 years, preferably
More importantly, what was their utilization? Who were they matched up against? How did the Flames play over that span? Etc.
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02-06-2025, 08:43 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingHomer
I'm trying to like Barrie but he just keeps letting me down.
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Seems like he would make a good pallbearer.
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02-06-2025, 08:44 AM
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#80
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Truculent!
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
A year - 2 years, preferably
More importantly, what was their utilization? Who were they matched up against? How did the Flames play over that span? Etc.
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Weegar has the hardest zone starts of all defensemen on the team. So if Hanley is playing with him, his starts are hard and typically against high level competition.
Weegar and Anderson share the lead for % of ice time.
So while they play about the same amount, Weegar starts more in his own zone and generates significantly more offense for and prevents more against.
His partner (hanley in those 17 games) is doing the same.
You can't shelter against competition with that high of ice time and defensive zone starts.
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Originally Posted by Poe969
It's the Law of E=NG. If there was an Edmonton on Mars, it would stink like Uranus.
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