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Old 01-16-2025, 06:57 PM   #61
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If race or ethnicity is factoring into your scouting or player selection, you are a racist, and are doing it wrong.

Super weird thread, is weird.
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lol why not if they can play…..
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The Flames didn't hire me to be their right-handed centre so they're ageists.
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The Flames didn't hire me to be their right-handed centre so they're ageists.
Well it’s not like you’d be very effective out there if you have to use the hockey stick as your cane.
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I think teams "hire" players based on skills, not ethnicity.

If you are good enough, you can be in the Taliban or ISIS and teams (I mean Edmonton) will still sign you.
NHL needs more DEI on the ice. Every other busy is doing it. Merit is useless nowadays.
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Might as well draft a few women while we're at it.
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Might as well draft a few women while we're at it.
How come we never draft Little People? Like a whole team of them? That'd really change NHL Tactics.
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This type of trolling is quite refreshing after seeing all the political idiot trolls run rampant lately
Its a nice change of pace right?
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How come we never draft Little People? Like a whole team of them? That'd really change NHL Tactics.
Worked with Fleury.....
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Worked with Fleury.....
Could you imagine an entire team of Oompa Loompas in full costume?

"Oompa Loompa doopity do! We are coming down the ice and scoring on you!!"
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The league wants to be more diverse and is gradually becoming more diverse. And they way they are doing it is through promotion at the grassroots level. Look at any CMHA team's makeup - it's reflective of the community.

It's filtering up. It's still a tiny percentage but you have a fair number of visible minorities in the NHL already - Kadri, Robertson, Bahl, Dumba, Khaira, Sherwood, Spence, Suzuki, Yamamoto, Saad, Zibanejad, Nurse, Peckham, Reaves, Duclair, etc etcetc
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The league wants to be more diverse and is gradually becoming more diverse. And they way they are doing it is through promotion at the grassroots level. Look at any CMHA team's makeup - it's reflective of the community.

It's filtering up. It's still a tiny percentage but you have a fair number of visible minorities in the NHL already - Kadri, Robertson, Bahl, Dumba, Khaira, Sherwood, Spence, Suzuki, Yamamoto, Saad, Zibanejad, Nurse, Peckham, Reaves, Duclair, etc etcetc
The major issue is the cost and time commitment of putting a kid through competitive hockey. It's not only extremely expensive, but how do you do it if you and your partner both work 60 hours a week?

Hockey Canada needs to find a way to make minor hockey more economically feasible. The NCAA allowing players who've played in major juniors to still compete in the NCAA is a big step. More needs to be done.

Outreach is great. Now they need to work on making it feasible for people of all economic classes to actually play hockey.
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Okay but if you think that is only a hockey thing you better check again. Basically if your parents don't have you in year round, competitive Basketball, Hockey, Baseball, Tennis, Swimming, Skiing or whatever it may be from 8-9 years old you have next to no chance of reaching an elite or even highly competitive level.

Pump the brakes on it being a hockey only thing. You can't dabble and be really good a sport now and expect to turn it into anything more than a hobby and that's due to the competitiveness of each sport, but also the demands (right or wrong) being asked of each sport and its coaching.

There's something inherently wrong in my eyes when you're asking kids who are 7-8-9 to practice 2x a week and play games often on both weekend days. Too much to early and it's not healthy for the kids or families to carry this burden if they simply want to have their kids put their best foot forward at a young age. There's next to no room now for anyone to diversify or dabble for a few years before they see what sport they are truly passionate about and it becomes more the parents choosing for them instead of the other way around.
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The major issue is the cost and time commitment of putting a kid through competitive hockey. It's not only extremely expensive, but how do you do it if you and your partner both work 60 hours a week?

Hockey Canada needs to find a way to make minor hockey more economically feasible. The NCAA allowing players who've played in major juniors to still compete in the NCAA is a big step. More needs to be done.

Outreach is great. Now they need to work on making it feasible for people of all economic classes to actually play hockey.
I disagree with both of the bolded statements below. Why do they NEED to find a way? Why does more NEEDS to be done? Who needs it? Hockey is a very expensive and time-consuming activity. There are many different physical activities that are less expensive, less time-consuming and much more accessible/available to everyone (running, weigh-lifting, volleyball, basketball, soccer etc.). NHL is an entertainment business. Why does Hockey Canada need to help anyone to get into NHL?
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I disagree with both of the bolded statements below. Why do they NEED to find a way? Why does more NEEDS to be done? Who needs it? Hockey is a very expensive and time-consuming activity. There are many different physical activities that are less expensive, less time-consuming and much more accessible/available to everyone (running, weigh-lifting, volleyball, basketball, soccer etc.). NHL is an entertainment business. Why does Hockey Canada need to help anyone to get into NHL?
Hockey is not what it used to be in Canada, and the situations getting worse. Kids growing up playing hockey translates into more fans of the sport in adulthood.

I don't disagree that other sports are more accessible. If the plan is just to let fans transition over to other sports and spend less money on the NHL......I mean keep up the status quo.
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The major issue is the cost and time commitment of putting a kid through competitive hockey. It's not only extremely expensive, but how do you do it if you and your partner both work 60 hours a week?

Hockey Canada needs to find a way to make minor hockey more economically feasible. The NCAA allowing players who've played in major juniors to still compete in the NCAA is a big step. More needs to be done.

Outreach is great. Now they need to work on making it feasible for people of all economic classes to actually play hockey.
Well, sure but presumably the financial burden is as great for everyone. Obviously new immigrants are probably in a worse financial position, but if you go to most upper middle class areas - say Trails West - and look at their younger teams, they are pretty diverse.
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Well, sure but presumably the financial burden is as great for everyone. Obviously new immigrants are probably in a worse financial position, but if you go to most upper middle class areas - say Trails West - and look at their younger teams, they are pretty diverse.
Sorry. Wasn't suggesting that all immigrant families are poor. There are plenty of affluent ones.

Calgary is just a little over 50% of European heritage. So you'd expect lots of diversity on youth teams.

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Hockey in Canada should be nationalized, with teams established in regional centres, and comprised of inhabitants in their respective communities. Management and coaches should be elected, with random citizens volunteering as sort of "assistant of the week."

Players should be fully representative of the diversity inherent in the local communities where they serve, with yearly auditions following guidelines as set out by a committee. A lottery for citizen-players will allow the lucky winner the opportunity to play at least one shift per season.

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