01-13-2025, 11:36 AM
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#61
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Memento Mori
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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
9 goals against at five on five, yes. 16 goals against at all strengths.
Giving up a goal per game as a 4th liner/pker playing 9 minutes a night is just downright awful stuff. His goals against per 60 over that time frame is 6.17...
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Yeah holy crap that's pitiful.
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01-13-2025, 11:37 AM
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#62
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Kirkland, by contrast, was on the ice for 10 goals for, and 4 against, at even strength (in 21 games)
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01-13-2025, 11:40 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I think if they put a greater emphasis on winning faceoffs just on the PK you could see some improvement being able to kill minutes and have the PP having to face a set defence to enter the zone.
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I think it might be the opposite TBH.
They are almost putting too much emphasis on winning the faceoff, which is leading to them starting with Rooney/Backlund as the PK unit since Huska want's 2 centers on the ice to try to win the draw.
But it's actually leading to suboptimal usage because now you using Rooney in way higher leverage situations than he should ever be used in, and guys like Coleman, Sharangovich, Pelletier, etc who are probably better PKers based on history are not on the first unit.
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01-13-2025, 11:40 AM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Kuzmenko shouldn't have been the one to come out IMO.
Duehr and Rooney have both been pretty bad the last 15 games or so.
Last 15 games:
Duehr: 34.9% xGF, 2 GF, 5 GA
Rooney: 35.2% xGF, 3 GF, 9 GA
Kuzmenko: 58.7% xGF, 2 GF, 3 GA
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Ick. Surely we can ice a more reliable 4th line.
I don't know which Flames management's child Rooney saved but his ability to fly under the radar and continue to get a regular nhl role here is beyond comprehension.
Being a center shouldn't be enough justification. Some waiver wire options have to be better nhl players than this guy.
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01-13-2025, 11:45 AM
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#65
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Thank you Jeff Bezos for saving us from the plight of the Rogers monopoly. My wife will continue to order useless things from your website in appreciation.
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01-13-2025, 11:47 AM
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#66
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Ick. Surely we can ice a more reliable 4th line.
I don't know which Flames management's child Rooney saved but his ability to fly under the radar and continue to get a regular nhl role here is beyond comprehension.
Being a center shouldn't be enough justification. Some waiver wire options have to be better nhl players than this guy.
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It is strange. Hrudey loves to praise him that he is trusted on the penalty kill but I don’t get that either. The flames penalty kill has not been good. Obviously not entirely on Rooney but it’s strange to praise anyone on the penalty kill until it starts getting better. As long as Rooney has been on a regular on the penalty kill, it has not been good.
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01-13-2025, 11:47 AM
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#67
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I'd like to see them give a bit more of an offensive 4th line a look.
Huberdeau-Kadri-Pospisil
Coleman - Backlund - Coronato
Pelletier - Sharangovich - ???
Lomberg - Kerins - Kuzmenko
Shelter the 4th line a ton and see if they can win some matchups instead of getting dummied like the 4th line is right now.
Last edited by SuperMatt18; 01-13-2025 at 11:50 AM.
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01-13-2025, 11:49 AM
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#68
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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If they want Sharangovich scoring more I'm not sure playing with Pelletier & Klapka is the way to go. Maybe one or the other, but both?
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01-13-2025, 11:57 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Toonage
If they want Sharangovich scoring more I'm not sure playing with Pelletier & Klapka is the way to go. Maybe one or the other, but both?
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I was thinking more of what the coaching staff might do than what I'd perfectly want to see.
Part of the problem is I don't think the coaching staff wants Sharangovich and Kuzmenko together...which might be a bit of unfounded fear from the staff.
23/24: 56.9% xGF, 2 GF, 4 GA (3.5% shooting, .925 save percentage)
24/25: 52.0% xGF, 1 GF, 5 GA (4.55% shooting, .827 save percentage)
It's a bit like Kadri and Huberdeau where the underlyings were strong, but they got PDO'd to oblivion in their early minutes together and it caused the coaches to shy away from going back to it.
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01-13-2025, 12:03 PM
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#70
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I think it might be the opposite TBH.
They are almost putting too much emphasis on winning the faceoff, which is leading to them starting with Rooney/Backlund as the PK unit since Huska want's 2 centers on the ice to try to win the draw.
But it's actually leading to suboptimal usage because now you using Rooney in way higher leverage situations than he should ever be used in, and guys like Coleman, Sharangovich, Pelletier, etc who are probably better PKers based on history are not on the first unit.
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They may be spooked by the low percentages, but like I mentioned Coleman with limited attempts has done well.
It is weird the PK is getting killed the way it is as Huska has always had a good PK as a coach here.
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01-13-2025, 12:11 PM
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#72
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
They may be spooked by the low percentages, but like I mentioned Coleman with limited attempts has done well.
It is weird the PK is getting killed the way it is as Huska has always had a good PK as a coach here.
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Some of it is goaltending on the PK too...
47 goalies have played 60 or more minutes on the PK.
Wolf ranks 31st: .838, -1.30 GSAA
Vladar ranks 46th: .759, -7.27 GSAA
Flames lead the NHL with 35 goals against on the PK, but are actually 15th in xGA at 26.67.
3rd worst PK save percentage though with a .803 on the PK.
So it's a middle of the pack PK that's getting bad goaltending on the PK.
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01-13-2025, 12:21 PM
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#73
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Does Prime still allow you to watch warmups? On one of their earlier games of the year I loaded up the stream before the game time and they had a live feed of the rink for at least a half hour before.
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01-13-2025, 12:21 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Some of it is goaltending on the PK too...
47 goalies have played 60 or more minutes on the PK.
Wolf ranks 31st: .838, -1.30 GSAA
Vladar ranks 46th: .759, -7.27 GSAA
Flames lead the NHL with 35 goals against on the PK, but are actually 15th in xGA at 26.67.
3rd worst PK save percentage though with a .803 on the PK.
So it's a middle of the pack PK that's getting bad goaltending on the PK.
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That does not match the eye test.
Giving up wide open chances is a more plausible explanation
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01-13-2025, 12:22 PM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Does Prime still allow you to watch warmups? On one of their earlier games of the year I loaded up the stream before the game time and they had a live feed of the rink for at least a half hour before.
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They have done that with every game I have turned on - seems to be their thing. And it's great.
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01-13-2025, 12:24 PM
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#76
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Does Prime still allow you to watch warmups? On one of their earlier games of the year I loaded up the stream before the game time and they had a live feed of the rink for at least a half hour before.
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Yes its on like 30 minutes before.
It's like being at the game.
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01-13-2025, 12:30 PM
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#77
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Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
They have done that with every game I have turned on - seems to be their thing. And it's great.
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Cool, thanks. I want to watch Kerins do his first game skate.
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01-13-2025, 12:32 PM
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#78
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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Wolf = win
Definitely not excited to see Kerins! tonight.
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01-13-2025, 12:36 PM
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#79
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Niceland
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Yes its on like 30 minutes before.
It's like being at the game.
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Cool. I am going to tune in.
I still maintain that first Amazon Flames broadcast was one of the best I have ever listened to.
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01-13-2025, 12:42 PM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
That does not match the eye test.
Giving up wide open chances is a more plausible explanation
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Thing is the goaltending performance is not restricted to high / medium danger chances.
High Danger: .758 - 25th; 15 GA - 28th
Medium Danger: .796 - 27th ; 11 GA - 28th
Low Danger: .855 - 30th; 9 GA - 30th
One thing I do think is the team isn't great at clearing out the net front, so leading to potentially medium and low danger being more difficult due to screens and traffic.
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