American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[La Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Yes, the candidates and the ideology. For all the crap Trump and other Republicans say, has he ever talked about stupid, idiot voters like the Democrats do? They're not attacking you.

2016: Deplorables
2024: Garbage

Oh? Only mostly alluding to violence, if not trying to induce it. But that's fine. Because he didn't call them a name.

"Maybe he should have been roughed up, because it was absolutely disgusting what he was doing."

"If you see somebody getting ready to throw a tomato, knock the crap out of them, would you? Seriously, okay? Just knock the hell—I promise you, I will pay for the legal fees. I promise, I promise."

“I’d like to punch him in the face.”

"Can’t you just shoot them? Just shoot them in the legs or something?"

"Stand back and stand by."

"Get smart Republicans. FIGHT!"

"I am your warrior. I am your justice. And for those who have been wronged and betrayed, I am your retribution."

"Our enemies are desperate to stop us, because they know we are the only ones who can stop them."

"We pledge to you that we will root out the Communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical-left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, that lie and steal and cheat on elections … The threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat from within. Our threat is from within."

"If I don’t get elected … it’s going to be a bloodbath for the country."

"Well, revenge does take time. I will say that. And sometimes revenge can be justified, Phil, I have to be honest."

"I always say, we have two enemies … We have the outside enemy, and then we have the enemy from within, and the enemy from within, in my opinion, is more dangerous than China, Russia, and all these countries … We have some very bad people; we have some sick people, radical-left lunatics. And it should be very easily handled by, if necessary, by the National Guard—or, if really necessary, by the military."

"It is the enemy from within. And they’re very dangerous—they’re Marxists and Communists and fascists … They’re dangerous for our country. We have China, we have Russia, we have all these countries. If you have a smart president, they can all be handled. The more difficult are, you know, the Pelosis, these people, they’re so sick; they’re so evil."

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

The exit polls showing more than 70% were upset with or angry at the direction the US is going probably doesn't favor status quo

Inflation nearing 2% targets, stock market at all time highs, unemployment near all time lows.

Fascinating that a record number of people figure that the tonic to what ails the country is tax cuts for the wealthy.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

So, tariffs, and deportation sound better?

The people voting aren’t getting deported.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Americans deserve the #### show they are going to get.

The ones who voted Trump/Stein or just stayed home yes.

Honestly if they don't feel some pain for the stuff Trump said he is going to do nothing will ever change.

RFK Jr already saying he is cleaning house in the FDA. Might be time to close our borders if vaccinations are gone in children.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Inflation nearing 2% targets

Too little too late

stock market at all time highs

Who cares, you have no money to invest

unemployment near all time lows.

"I'm working three of those jobs"

Fascinating that a record number of people figure that the tonic to what ails the country is tax cuts for the wealthy.

They don't think that. They think "F#c# 'em all to death". South Park got it years ago.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by rubecube

This is actually a pretty good point, too. Democrats have now ran two elections on maintaining the status quo or returning to the status quo, not realizing that the status quo hasn't been working for a good portion of Americans for years.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1854042393181409454

My problem with this is despite it being so obvious, a person like Bernie Sanders goes along with it.

"Everything about American is broken when it comes to protecting the working class people. Health care, wages, everything."

"That is why you need to support Harris, because she will uhhh, stutter, uhh, nothing, Dick Cheney, WAR!"

And then they think, and even Bernie thinks that Americans are so stupid to fall for that.

Harris offered nothing different than what has been going on for 20 years, but this time around people should believe her?

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you'll never fool all the people all the time."

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I think the map would look a lot different. He'd likely gain in PA/WI/MI, but could lose states like VA and others.

His style of having a few simple policies and repeating them over and over may be what is needed to beat a guy like Trump. It doesn't really seem to matter if it they are impractical to implement or have unintended consequences.

I think his dedication to unwaveringly fighting for what he believes in would have appealed to a lot of voters. Most democrats just seem like they are too scared to say anything that they think will be considered a departure from their status quo.

How many 2016 Bernie Bros are 2024 Joe Rogan Bros? Could Bernie pull them back?

Rogan is a Bernie Bro, would have been interesting to see how much differently he would have approached this election had he been their candidate.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

The ones who voted Trump/Stein or just stayed home yes.

Honestly if they don't feel some pain for the stuff Trump said he is going to do nothing will ever change.

RFK Jr already saying he is cleaning house in the FDA. Might be time to close our borders if vaccinations are gone in children.

The people have spoken

He got the popular vote.

They are getting what they deserve and want.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Americans deserve the #### show they are going to get.

People who voted for Trump deserve the #### show hey are going to get.
Unfortunately, there are tens of millions of Americans who are going to take it on the chin much worse, and they don't deserve one bit of it.

[Muta]

Buyers remorse will be in full effect by Spring.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Americans deserve the #### show they are going to get.

Thought about it a lot last night as well, what a fascinating country America is. A record number of people in that country looked at him, and the GOP, and said that's my team.

Fill your boots.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Azure

My problem with this is despite it being so obvious, a person like Bernie Sanders goes along with it.

"Everything about American is broken when it comes to protecting the working class people. Health care, wages, everything."

"That is why you need to support Harris, because she will uhhh, stutter, uhh, nothing, Dick Cheney, WAR!"

And then they think, and even Bernie thinks that Americans are so stupid to fall for that.

Harris offered nothing different than what has been going on for 20 years, but this time around people should believe her?

"You can fool all of the people some of the time, some of the people all of the time, but you'll never fool all the people all the time."

I mean, I get that Bernie is probably doing what he thinks is harm reduction, but you're right that it's not a great look.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Weitz

The people voting aren’t getting deported.

He said he is deporting the migrants, not just illegal ones.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Rogan is a Bernie Bro, would have been interesting to see how much differently he would have approached this election had he been their candidate.

Here's another problem - people like Rogan and Musk have way too much influence on people's political whims - and that goes for the US and beyond.

No wonder Russia has already said Donald Trump's election win is "useful for us". It's easy to sell when you arrange your preferred candidate to say things, and get a bunch of willing puppets to drink the same brine and say "that candidate is also useful for us too".

Useful idiots all around. Trump, Rogan, Musk - everyone like them. And they get even more useful if they bring or generate big money.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Yes I know you are not.

Maybe these people need to answer some questions before they are allowed to vote.

If you can't answer what a tariff you cannot vote.

If you are struggling to pay bills now, wait until they pass on those 200% tariffs. Bankruptcy might be the better option, and their leader knows a thing or two about that.

Right but his manufacturing job is going to be running super hot because protectionism (and #### the environment), and his OT isn't getting taxed. He's going to feel wealthier

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz

People who voted for Trump deserve the #### show hey are going to get.
Unfortunately, there are tens of millions of Americans who are going to take it on the chin much worse, and they don't deserve one bit of it.

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Thought about it a lot last night as well, what a fascinating country America is. A record number of people in that country looked at him, and the GOP, and said that's my team.

Fill your boots.

Look I don't disagree, but at some point you can't save people from themselves.


I do not revel in the pain that many in America will feel as a result of this Administration, but it is some of those that voted for this ####ing guy.

[SutterBrother]

What were those made up "ancient curses"?

"May your fondest wish be granted" - hold on to your hats MAGA!

"May you live in interesting times" - check!

"May you come to the attention of authority" - I would not want to be a pregnant woman seeking an abortion in a red state.

The USA is just as stupid as so many people said it was.

When Putin and the KKK are having a celebratory wakeup, and they're on your team... take a long look in the mirror.

[La Flames Fan]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

Thought about it a lot last night as well, what a fascinating country America is. A record number of people in that country looked at him, and the GOP, and said that's my team.

Fill your boots.

They'll believe anything he says. And he says everything they like to hear.

It's a good way to get into office, do the bidding of the billionaire class, the anti-regulation class, while promptly enacting policies that do the opposite of all the things he said to regular people to get into office. Bait and switch.

We're seeing it here too.

Just say whatever the eff gets you into office and then go about your anti-government business.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

Also, almost 18 million less votes this time around. Something seems off here. During a pandemic they had record turnout.

What happened to the reports of I have never seen so many people out to vote.

The 2020 they cheated

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

So because the US is weird and allows a lame duck President to retain power for a couple months, what can Biden do? Cut all aid to Israel before they finish off their conquest? Send all the weapons to Ukraine? Make the transition really suck? Declare war somewhere? What's the worst he could get away with?

Biden can do and will do the same thing he has been doing for over the last year which is sitting quietly in the corner until he is walked out of the White House. He has been phoning it in and will continue to do so.