07-11-2024, 02:12 PM
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#61
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Scoring Winger
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Holloway is a grinder just like Martin St. Louis was on the 4th line on the Flames.
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07-11-2024, 02:13 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon
Alexander Holtz was just traded for a third rounder.
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Because Holtz isn't very good.
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07-11-2024, 02:14 PM
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#63
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Because Holtz isn't very good.
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He's better than Holloway.
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07-11-2024, 02:14 PM
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#64
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Lifetime In Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan
Holloway is a grinder just like Martin St. Louis was on the 4th line on the Flames.
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So you’re saying you think it’s a good idea to offer sheet him because he’ll be a hall of fame player? In that case no price is too high
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07-11-2024, 02:15 PM
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#65
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
I thought Holloway was a winger. Not sure why we would offer sheet another winger?
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Maybe because he might be better now and in the future compared to current wingers.
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07-11-2024, 02:15 PM
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#66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan
Holloway is a grinder just like Martin St. Louis was on the 4th line on the Flames.
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LOL, I'll take that bet.
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07-11-2024, 02:16 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ba'alzamon
He's better than Holloway.
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Strongly disagree. So does Fitz. I suspect Conroy too.
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07-11-2024, 02:16 PM
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#68
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Lifetime Suspension
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Maybe we can also add our 2025 1st unprotected for Kane and Perry as well?
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07-11-2024, 02:16 PM
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#69
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Strongly disagree. So does Fitz. I suspect Conroy too.
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Fitzgerald was never asked to choose between Holtz and Holloway. You have no grounds for saying that.
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07-11-2024, 02:17 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
So you’re saying you think it’s a good idea to offer sheet him because he’ll be a hall of fame player? In that case no price is too high
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Yeah lol - I'm just saying nobody can really know what he'll become ust by assessing him at age 22. Posters on here seem pretty certain though.
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07-11-2024, 02:18 PM
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#71
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
Maybe we can also add our 2025 1st unprotected for Kane and Perry as well?
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###### comment of the day, congrats.
Last edited by Phaneuf_Phan; 07-11-2024 at 02:18 PM.
Reason: Oh, now you can't say r-e-t-a-r-d on here anymore? lol
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07-11-2024, 02:18 PM
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#72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
LOL, I'll take that bet.
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He's not saying he's St Louis, he's saying he's not a grinder. Which is correct.
His recent utilization on the Oilers does not determine who he is as a player. Holloway is not / will not be a 4th line grinder.
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07-11-2024, 02:18 PM
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#73
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Strongly disagree. So does Fitz. I suspect Conroy too.
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What indication has there been that either of those gentlemen values Holloway at all?
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07-11-2024, 02:18 PM
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#74
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan
Yeah lol - I'm just saying nobody can really know what he'll become ust by assessing him at age 22. Posters on here seem pretty certain though.
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Nobody can really know what he'll become, but you know he'll be massively better than anything he's ever shown yet?
Sounds legit.
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07-11-2024, 02:19 PM
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#75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
Fitzgerald was never asked to choose between Holtz and Holloway. You have no grounds for saying that.
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The grounds is - what Fitz was willing to accept, in order to move him. Compared to what Holloway is likely worth.
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07-11-2024, 02:19 PM
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#76
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This thread is fun!
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07-11-2024, 02:21 PM
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#77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
The grounds is - what Fitz was willing to accept, in order to move him. Compared to what Holloway is likely worth.
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First off, we have no direct information about what Holloway would fetch on the trade market.
Secondly, if we did have that information, that still wouldn't tell us what Fitzgerald thinks of Holloway, unless he was one of the GMs attempting to trade for the player.
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07-11-2024, 02:22 PM
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#78
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Holloway is not / will not be a 4th line grinder.
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Yeah, he will be a tweener
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07-11-2024, 02:24 PM
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#79
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
He's not saying he's St Louis, he's saying he's not a grinder. Which is correct.
His recent utilization on the Oilers does not determine who he is as a player. Holloway is not / will not be a 4th line grinder.
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okay fine, but it's a bad comparison. St. Louis was a hall of famer. Holloway will not be that.
A better comparable might be Carter Verhaeghe (although it would still be a stretch). He was playing on the 4th line in Tampa Bay before he got a shot to be in the top six in Florida.
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07-11-2024, 02:24 PM
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#80
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Scoring Winger
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[QUOTE=Ba'alzamon;9151778]Andrew Mangiapane was just traded for a late second rounder, and you're suggesting the Flames surrender an early second and an absolutely ridiculous cap hit for a significantly worse player.
No, Mangiapane was traded to free up $6M in cap space. To not include value of that in your assessment seems silly.
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