Do you trade Rasmus Andersson this summer?

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Trade him now.

Andersson should return a 1st, 2nd, 2nd package, and doing that would go a long way in securing our top-10 pick in 2025.

Markstrom -> Traded this Summer.
Andersson -> Traded this Summer.
Mangiapane -> Traded this Summer.
Kuzmenko -> Traded in-season.

You've effectively completed the rip-down component of building a new team at that stage.

You still have plenty of veterans in Kadri, Huberdeau, Weegar, Miromanov, Sharangovich, Backlund, Vladar, and Coleman followed by a younger group in Wolf, Zary, Coronato etc. and then a plethora of high value picks in 2024/2025/2026.

Based on what the GM has said, I think this has a 1% chance of happening. Sorry.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Trade him now.

Andersson should return a 1st, 2nd, 2nd package, and doing that would go a long way in securing our top-10 pick in 2025.

Markstrom -> Traded this Summer.
Andersson -> Traded this Summer.
Mangiapane -> Traded this Summer.
Kuzmenko -> Traded in-season.

You've effectively completed the rip-down component of building a new team at that stage.

You still have plenty of veterans in Kadri, Huberdeau, Weegar, Miromanov, Sharangovich, Backlund, Vladar, and Coleman followed by a younger group in Wolf, Zary, Coronato etc. and then a plethora of high value picks in 2024/2025/2026.

If Kuzmenko is a legit 35-40 goal, 70 point winger who makes your PP click (which is what he has been for most of his limited NHL career outside the start of this season) I would consider signing him to a 3 year deal. Not sure what he returns for the Flames is equal to what he brings that cannot easily be replaced.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by slcrocket

No one on this team is untouchable, but I don't see how Rasmus Andersson for the next two years at less than $5M per is a bad thing. Even if he walked himself right to UFA and left, I wouldn't move him unless he requests it or the offer is borderline insane.

This conversation really shouldn't happen until the TDL in 2026. I don't have faith in this front office to hit a homerun with a trade (not saying they can't, just saying I don't feel overly confident after Tanev/Lindholm). He seems like a great teammate, an absolute Top 4 D, and one of those pieces you don't move unless he's unhappy here. Throw in his bargain contract and he's the least of my worries.

With no rumors out there of him being available and what the return would be it's hard to speculate what it would take. I think anyone who is in the trade him now group would agree that a late 1st and middle tier prospect doesn't make sense to trade him. This should be common sense as you could get that for him as a rental.

Part of the idea is there is some assumption that can be made that with 2 years left on a great contract that the return is better than what we got for Hanifin. If no team steps up, keep him for a year but I would think a few teams would step it up and offer more than a rental price as he has term left on his deal.

IF we can add a top 15 pick in this draft or a 1st in 25 plus a quality prospect and a RFA that has potential, I would be all over it.

Also, there could be an option for some teams that have cap issues where you get a younger more expensive player than Rasmus and the team adding Rasmus gets the cap space to sign players. Sergachev comes to mind. They are probably wanting to win now and keep Stamkos, Rasmus would be a great replacement for Sergachev, saves them $4 mil and Sergachev fits very nicely into our plans.

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No.

[Burning Beard]

Nope. Keep him around.

[Harry Lime]

The most obvious play would be the Wild, who are in desperate need of an all situations D. Brodin, Spurgeon and Faber could use a fourth guy, as there's not much in the pipeline.

Rossi plus?

You would have to shop for a stopgap player on a short contract, maybe an ekman Larson ish sort.

[Funkhouser]

1) does he want to stay long term?
2) If yes, for how much?
3) is he willing to sign for less term? (e.g. 6yrs @ 7M)

If the answer to any of these questions is no, start the offers this summer until you get an overpay from someone (Toronto? Utah? Ottawa?)


My preference is that he stays, but need to do what is in best interest of the team. If he does what to stay, great - Weegar and him could anchor our D for another 4-5 years and hope we get another elite young D through the draft to learn from them.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

The most obvious play would be the Wild, who are in desperate need of an all situations D. Brodin, Spurgeon and Faber could use a fourth guy, as there's not much in the pipeline.

Rossi plus?

You would have to shop for a stopgap player on a short contract, maybe an ekman Larson ish sort.

The Wild have shown no signs that they would mortgage the future for now, I think that continues for 1 more year until the Parise/Suter buyout finally drops to a manageable number.

Tampa or Nashville could be a good option. Nashville might want to swoop in and replace McDonagh with someone who is cheaper and younger. They have tons of cap space and are a decent team that might be looking to get better now. They also have their 1st and 3 2nds in this draft.

[Harry Lime]

Rossi has been reported as available in the right situation, and kaprisov has two years left on his deal. Rossi is one of the few I'd stretch for in a trade, otherwise just hold onto Rasmus.

[Major Major]

Love the player. Trade him.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Players may like it here, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't take the opportunity to ply their trade elsewhere. I wouldn't begrudge Andersson if he wanted to go to a place where he can win.

[Jason14h]

I’m not pumped to sign a 30 year old Rasmus to a 8 year 55 + million dollar deal

We have to stop signing 30 year olds long term

[Sandman]

I love the guy, but considering how old he’s going to be when the team is actually contenders, it seems like he would be an excellent sell-high option. I just wonder about the optics, considering he signed a long-term sweetheart deal here, then we trade him before he gets to UFA….

I’m probably thinking gorganzola when it’s clearly bree time….

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

If Kuzmenko is a legit 35-40 goal, 70 point winger who makes your PP click (which is what he has been for most of his limited NHL career outside the start of this season) I would consider signing him to a 3 year deal. Not sure what he returns for the Flames is equal to what he brings that cannot easily be replaced.

If he’s a legit 35- 40 goal guy, he’ll want more than 3 years.

[Badgers Nose]

It’s a job and he is a pro. Players get paid incredibly well and mobility goes into that calculus.

Take sentiment out of the equation and upgrade the roster ruthlessly. If Andersson can get us high value assets plus a plug to fill the hole then move him at peak value. When this contract is done, he’s going to want a long expensive contract and someone will give it to him. Let’s not ‘Markstrom’ this decision. If there is a great offer take it and move on.

Any team acquiring him will be in a contention window or entering one. How is that bad optics?

[Fan69]

Originally Posted by Sandman

I love the guy, but considering how old he’s going to be when the team is actually contenders, it seems like he would be an excellent sell-high option. I just wonder about the optics, considering he signed a long-term sweetheart deal here, then we trade him before he gets to UFA….

I’m probably thinking gorganzola when it’s clearly bree time….

I dont think its a mystery that the team are selling at the right price. I think the question is more who wants to stick around.

Kadri may say not interested. Backs may want to go after a cup. Kuzmenko unknown. Sharangovich unknown. Eat bread supposedly wants out. Markstrom probably out. If backs and kadri want out we have pretty much zero center depth.

At that point Anderson may request a trade.

Myself i dont think conroy, the team or anyone else can really say where were heading. If the team comes out a dumpster fire the first two months next year i think most players will want out.

Long story short we will know trade deadline next year if were retooling or gutting but not by choice.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Fan69

I dont think its a mystery that the team are selling at the right price. I think the question is more who wants to stick around.

Kadri may say not interested. Backs may want to go after a cup. Kuzmenko unknown. Sharangovich unknown. Eat bread supposedly wants out. Markstrom probably out. If backs and kadri want out we have pretty much zero center depth.

At that point Anderson may request a trade.

Myself i dont think conroy, the team or anyone else can really say where were heading. If the team comes out a dumpster fire the first two months next year i think most players will want out.

Long story short we will know trade deadline next year if were retooling or gutting but not by choice.

I don’t think the Flames are going with the flow. I think they have a plan for the next 5 years and will act on it regardless of how the team does.

[TheScorpion]

Tbh to address some earlier points in the thread — if you're moving Andersson with two years left, I have a hard time thinking you're not getting, for starters, a pick in the top half of the first round. How can you reasonably say a player drafted that high "likely never plays in the NHL"? If that's the case, why do the Flames employ scouts at all?

If the Flames can get a top-16 pick for Ras, why wouldn't they take it?

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If he’s a legit 35- 40 goal guy, he’ll want more than 3 years.

… and would he be worth a ton with that expiring contract, at the TDL.

Canuckleheads sure could have used his scoring touch the last two games. But I guess because Tocchet couldn’t turn him into a checking 3rd liner Kuzy was worthless. Lucky us! Tocchet sure worked wonders with Elias and Hughes - they were physical monsters, imposing their will on the Soilers. Oh wait, that never happened.

Sorry for the tangent. Yeah, trade Rasmus.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Based on what the GM has said, I think this has a 1% chance of happening. Sorry.

I don’t expect andersson to get traded but I’m guessing the other three are gone