[Trade] Flyers trade Sean Walker to Colorado for Ryan Johansen + a 1st

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by bax

Curious why you think that?

He was awful in Nashville last season and was bought out. Got this deal from Colorado and has underwhelmed massively. Now he will be 32 next season in Philly. Seems like he just a cap dump and nothing else.

I think centers have value. As bad as he's been this year, he has 13 goals and is on pace for about 20.

He's already retained at 4M. One more retain brings him down to 2.5M, which for a pure rental center should have some value.

If Philly is waiving him that's a different story, but I think he can be flipped next season.

[bax]

Originally Posted by bax

Curious why you think that?

He was awful in Nashville last season and was bought out. Got this deal from Colorado and has underwhelmed massively. Now he will be 32 next season in Philly. Seems like he just a cap dump and nothing else.

And there you have it- sounds like Philly is putting him on waivers immediately.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

I have a feeling Johansen can be moved next season retained for at least a 2nd. I would have preferred the 1st and Johansen for Tanev.

No thanks.

There is opportunity cost to taking on Johansen that closes the door on other deals.

I'll take the deal we did all day

[Southside403]

Avs are making some nice moves

[MissTeeks]

Full trade:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1765454904972189909

[Nelson]

When you look at this trade as a whole, it confirms the Flames did fine on the Tanev trade.

[Bonded]

Damn. Would have liked this return better than the Tanev one

[Manhattanboy]

Should Conroy have waited on Tanev?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Should Conroy have waited on Tanev?

I’d like to think that if this was on the table Conroy would have it.

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Flames chose Grushnikov over a 1st.

Which is baffling. Grushnikov was ranked 11th in the Stars organization by The Athletic. And I say this thinking Grushnikov is still a decent prospect in the vein of a Yan Kuznetsov. But Kuznetsov is not worth a first round pick now. So either the Flames scouts really really really liked Grushnikov, or Conroy got short changed.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Damn. Would have liked this return better than the Tanev one

Oh hell no! That would have been a terrible return with Johansson tied to it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Which is baffling. Grushnikov was ranked 11th in the Stars organization by The Athletic. And I say this thinking Grushnikov is still a decent prospect in the vein of a Yan Kuznetsov. But Kuznetsov is not worth a first round pick now. So either the Flames scouts really really really liked Grushnikov, or Conroy got short changed.

It was Grushnikov and a second versus a first and an anchor contract.

[dammage79]

It's a 2025 1st from the Avs that's top 10 protected (like that was needed).

Avs still have 4.9 in cap. Nichushkin coming back drops that once activated. They can still add.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I’d like to think that if this was on the table Conroy would have it.

Colorado offered this exact package for Tanev. Conroy rightfully declined.

Johansen is a largely negative piece. This is now the second team who has paid to get rid of him in a year.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Oh hell no! That would have been a terrible return with Johansson tied to it.

I like the 25 1st over a 2nd and Grushnikov but hopefully I’m wrong

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Colorado offered this exact package for Tanev. Conroy rightfully declined.

Johansen is a largely negative piece. This is now the second team who has paid to get rid of him in a year.

I thought it was Ceci and a 24 1st

[PeteMoss]

Curious as to what the Flyers do with Johansen? He does not seem like a guy Torts would love.. are they just going to bury him?

[dustygoon]

Wait. Ryan Johansen just got waived after this trade?

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It was Grushnikov and a second versus a first and an anchor contract.

Can the Flames trade Kuznetsov and a 2nd for a 1st and a $800k cap dump?

(spoiler: no they can't)

So the Tanev return is... not great.

[HighLifeMan]

Originally Posted by cannon7

Can the Flames trade Kuznetsov and a 2nd for a 1st and a $800k cap dump?

(spoiler: no they can't)

So the Tanev return is... not great.

800k cap dump?