Halifax Police investigating sex assault case involving 2003 Canada WJC team

[nfotiu]

You take 16 year olds out of their homes, they are going to be very influenced by the 18-19 year olds who were in that same position 2-3 years ago. It's a vicious cycle, and a terrible system.

[zamler]

Can't believe so many people think that post is meant to be serious.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

This nonsense started in earnest after the crackdown on hazing IMO. When the vets couldn't take it out on the rookies they turned to girls.

However it's not all bad, hazing taught me some valuable life skills. Things like untying a ball of tracksuits and getting mine on while jammed in the bathroom on the bus before the rest of my rookie teammates. I also learned how to run really fast naked without dropping various objects.

worst post of all time?

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by MegaErtz

Jordan Tootoo wrote all about it in his book, so this is no surprise to anyone who read it. The Halifax Police are just trying to cover their ass because they did nothing for twenty years. There is zero doubt in my mind that the London Police will be dismissed and the RCMP will end up taking over their jurisdiction.

Police can only do so much, it's the prosecutors who decide to charge or not

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by zamler

Can't believe so many people think that post is meant to be serious.

I mean sure. But to be fair posting unseriously and facetiously in threads like this one seems like a dangerous game to play to begin with.

Maybe the investigation threads aren't the place to be testing people's sarcasm detecting abilities given how those things usually fly over.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

You take 16 year olds out of their homes, they are going to be very influenced by the 18-19 year olds who were in that same position 2-3 years ago. It's a vicious cycle, and a terrible system.

Yup.

Combine that with a culture that idolizes them and gives them pretty much anything they want?

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

You take 16 year olds out of their homes, they are going to be very influenced by the 18-19 year olds who were in that same position 2-3 years ago. It's a vicious cycle, and a terrible system.

I don't understand why these kids aren't under constant watch. I get why is more difficult with 18 and 19 year olds, because they are technically adults, but minors should have adult chaperones confirming where they are and what they are doing at all times. It sounds like they just send them out to things like galas, and let them run wild.

Even the 18 year old and older players should have to agree to certain rules and conditions as part of their privilege to play in the league.

[topfiverecords]

Which one was captain and which one ordered pizza?

[Kipper_3434]

Sexual assault isn't a hockey issue, it's a human issue. Can only hope that one day we will evolve beyond smart hairless apes.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

Which one was captain and which one ordered pizza?

You leave the Pizza Guy out of this! He's doing God's work!

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't understand why these kids aren't under constant watch. I get why is more difficult with 18 and 19 year olds, because they are technically adults, but minors should have adult chaperones confirming where they are and what they are doing at all times. It sounds like they just send them out to things like galas, and let them run wild.

Even the 18 year old and older players should have to agree to certain rules and conditions as part of their privilege to play in the league.

Because many of the same adults in charge have been part of that culture for decades.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Locke

You leave the Pizza Guy out of this! He's doing God's work!

I mean, there's three pizza guys. One guy ordered pizza. One guy delivered pizza. One guy went to the room for pizza. Hence why this went from 8 to 5. The Pizza Guy appears to be being left out of this.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

I mean, there's three pizza guys. One guy ordered pizza. One guy delivered pizza. One guy went to the room for pizza. Hence why this went from 8 to 5. The Pizza Guy appears to be being left out of this.

As he should be.

Those guys take enough crap as it is. Its a hard job.

[AustinL_NHL]

Didn't see this posted anywhere else

https://twitter.com/user/status/1846524147586814265

[bluejays]

Wellwood, Laich, Fleury, Stajan seem like low key guys. I’d be shocked if we ever heard anything like this about them. Some other name stick out as party boys. Wouldn’t be surprised if a few of them are listed in whatever may come out over time.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Police can only do so much, it's the prosecutors who decide to charge or not

I believe (and someone in criminal law can correct me if I'm incorrect) that the problem is that the police investigate and if their finding are "insufficient", then it never gets to the prosecutors for an adequate decision. It's pretty easy to "not see" something if one doesn't want to, and I think that is where the problem appears to be centred.


Hence the stories of cops and the "rape myth" and simply not believing the woman, or saying, well, you WERE wearing really skimpy clothes.


And, not to put to fine a point on all of these guys...they all have mothers, sisters, cousins and girlfriends....and now mostly wives and daughters.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Wellwood, Laich, Fleury, Stajan seem like low key guys. I’d be shocked if we ever heard anything like this about them. Some other name stick out as party boys. Wouldn’t be surprised if a few of them are listed in whatever may come out over time.

because someone seems chill as an adult makes you less suspicious of their propensity to commit a sexual assault?

that's a archaic take that needs to get called out.

bet you just as many seemingly low key guys have assaulted a person as "party boys" have. just because someone seems nice doesn't mean that they actually are.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

because someone seems chill as an adult makes you less suspicious of their propensity to commit a sexual assault?

that's a archaic take that needs to get called out.

bet you just as many seemingly low key guys have assaulted a person as "party boys" have. just because someone seems nice doesn't mean that they actually are.

Too take it to the extreme, Dahmer seemed like a pretty chill guy who kept to himself.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Didn't see this posted anywhere else

https://twitter.com/user/status/1846524147586814265

8 OHL players aged 16-19 in 2014 involved.

Insane stuff.

[Major Major]

The other thing is that some of these "chill" types are extremely passive with peers and may just go along with it.