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Old 11-14-2023, 05:48 PM   #61
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That is not exactly true; he gave up a 1st and Monahan.
Probably need to trade a 1st and Kadri for Monahan now

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Kadri is very tradeable if the Flames take a garbage contract back

Contending teams don’t care about Kadri in 6 years

But you will certainly need to take money and term of garbage back as part of the deal
Could easily see Colorado taking him back.
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Old 11-14-2023, 05:56 PM   #63
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Who takes that contract though?
I'm much less worried about being able to move Kadri than I am Markstrom, Huberdeau, Vladar, etc
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A deal around Kadri for Girard and a pick could work well for both sides
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Could easily see Colorado taking him back.
I can’t, they are bargain bin searching for who they plug in.
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Old 11-14-2023, 05:57 PM   #66
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I could see decent interest in Kadri if the flames willing to take back a useless player with significant cap hit and maybe 1-2 years term.
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Old 11-14-2023, 06:00 PM   #67
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What about zero assets? He gave away a first round pick and Sean Monahan to clear the cap room.
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That wasn't done giving up zero assets
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That is not exactly true; he gave up a 1st and Monahan.
We see that but at the time it was a FA signing and as we have seen multiple times GM's are much dumber when it comes to a "free" asset.

When it comes to giving up pieces to take a bad contract on GM's rarely are willing to give up anything and more often than not ask for pieces coming with the bad deal.
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Markstrom for Monahan. Make it happen.
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Old 11-14-2023, 06:01 PM   #69
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You can only retain on 3 players, so do it wisely:
- Maximize return on Hanifin and Lindholm
- get rid of one anchor: Huberdeau or Kadri

That’s it. That’s all.
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Quite a bit from Lebrun on the Athletic as well

- Hanifin extension was close to $60M. Off the table for the team and the player
This is absolutely unbelievable.
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He doesn't have the cap space. He also signed him giving up zero assets.
Not asking for a single asset. In fact, we can help create the cap space for 2023-24!
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Old 11-14-2023, 06:04 PM   #72
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This is absolutely unbelievable.
Between the Lindholm/Hanifin numbers coming out, the Toffoli trade, and Huska, I'm starting to get some real questionable vibes about Conroy's decision making.

Not convinced the guy who traded his leading scorer for a 4th liner and hired the worst coach this team has had since Greg Gilbert is the guy getting outstanding value from this firesale. But let's wait and see.
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A deal around Kadri for Girard and a pick could work well for both sides
Colorado is adding the pick to the older guy, signed for longer and to more money?
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You can only retain on 3 players, so do it wisely:
- Maximize return on Hanifin and Lindholm
- get rid of one anchor: Huberdeau or Kadri

That’s it. That’s all.
You should be retaining on Hanifin, Lindholm, and one of Tanev/Zadorov this deadline. Those will all be off the books July 1 anyways and you will have all 3 retention spots again next year

Is $58M over 8 years realky that crazy of an offer for Hanifin - that's $7.25M AAV.

Vince Dunn got $7.35M, Reilly was $7.5M, Provorov is $6.75, Lindholm was $6.5M. It's within $500k of most of those guys which feel like valid comparisons.

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Old 11-14-2023, 06:06 PM   #75
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Not asking for a single asset. In fact, we can help create the cap space for 2023-24!
They need the cap space beyond this year though. Adding Kadri screws them badly.
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People going to be surprised what Hanifin signs for
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Old 11-14-2023, 06:14 PM   #77
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Between the Lindholm/Hanifin numbers coming out, the Toffoli trade, and Huska, I'm starting to get some real questionable vibes about Conroy's decision making.

Not convinced the guy who traded his leading scorer for a 4th liner and hired the worst coach this team has had since Greg Gilbert is the guy getting outstanding value from this firesale. But let's wait and see.
if what he has done is convinced the franchise to "re-something" that's the most important accomplishment and long-term will be far more important to this franchise than the above.

I don't have much of a view on Huska yet, but, having an absolutely god-awful start to the season was absolutely critical. So if he's a bad coach - i don't mind it. Winning isn't the goal right now.
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Don Maloney will hopefully lose his job for thinking the roster construction was good. How can you have 40-years of experience in the NHL and have zero idea what a good team looks like

Seriously...he thought this bottom feeder team was a contender.
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Old 11-14-2023, 06:18 PM   #79
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- Van and NJ in on Zadorov
I do not see a fit for Zadorov in NJ barring an injury.

He is not better than Sigenthaler. Bahl is signed through next season.
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I do not see a fit for Zadorov in NJ barring an injury.

He is not better than Sigenthaler. Bahl is signed through next season.
Most NJ fans want Brendan Smith fired into the sun and replaced with Zadorov
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