It’s not a bad deal for the Avs. But I’m pretty unsure RyJo is what they need at 2C. They’d be far better off with Backlund (and even better off with Lindholm). In fact, I’d swing a deals for them for RyJo+ in exchange for Backlund or Lindy. It would give the Avs a real shot at a cup, it would give Calgary a centre for a couple years a medium cost while they retool and acclimatize the kids.
It's a cheap stab at filling their roster with the cap they have. I have a feeling though Johansens health isn't going to do much for them. Unless he's just a nice buffer for them while Newhook comes around.
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Like getting bent over like the Preds just did? No thanks. If you can't make a deal by the draft that is fine, I would rather they got the right deal than something rushed.
I kind of like it for Colorado, they're essentially betting on him staying healthy. Always seemed like a pretty lazy player but he does show up in the playoffs. Fairly low risk for the Avs.
Yeah, this notion that RyJo has any value whatsoever is completely bonkers. Colorado is rolling the dice here on a risky project. I'm surprised they think there might be some actual upside; maybe it works out, but everyone is holding their noses on this trade.
Down the stretch without Grandlund, Niederritter, Jeannot, Ekholm Forsberg and Johannssen the Preds were a better team than when they had the whole high paid gang together.
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Yeah this is an absolute fleecing for Colorado. I could see the player being free for 8 million. But 50% retained for nothing? Crazy.
No one was taking Johansen for free at 8 million. Marleau and Monahan cost a 1st to dump one year in the 6 million range. Johansen has always had a reputation of a player better than he has actually been.
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I would not say Backlund is out of the picture there Colorado may offer up Girard or Newhook back,once we move Hannifan for picks or picks and prospect we could use a puck moving dman.
Just something to consider for the Avs having Backlund and Johansen slide in that middle slot behind Mckinnon
It’s not a bad deal for the Avs. But I’m pretty unsure RyJo is what they need at 2C. They’d be far better off with Backlund (and even better off with Lindholm). In fact, I’d swing a deals for them for RyJo+ in exchange for Backlund or Lindy. It would give the Avs a real shot at a cup, it would give Calgary a centre for a couple years a medium cost while they retool and acclimatize the kids.
I can only assume that the Avs did not the price of Lindholm/Backlund, so went for Plan C.
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Years ago, he traded his "#1 Center" for Seth Jones, when he realized what he had in Johansen. Then he flips Jones to Chicago and made out like a bandit. It is quite the trade tree there. That's good asset management by Columbus - they would be nowhere further by keeping Johansen, and they would be nowhere further by keeping Jones either IMO.
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If he were a UFA this summer, I suspect he would do better than 2x4M...I'd venture 3x5.5M or so.
If that's the case why didn't someone else make a deal to get him with Nashville only eating 35% of the salary? Colorado gets him for nothing with Nashville eating half the contract. Seems to suggest 2 years at 4 a year would have been his market.
Could work out okay for the Avalanche as he's not that old he can't get back to being a 55-60 point player. If he can it's a massive win for Colorado. So it's a good deal for them.
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