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Old 06-17-2023, 12:59 AM   #61
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Draft position doesn’t matter 3-5 years later, after years of production and observation. There was not “far more uncertainty” in year 5 of Bratt.

The only fail is you not knowing what Bratt’s history and production was. Complain all you want about Tkachuk not getting a six year deal. Bratt’s contractual dealings aren’t any different.
The Flames had an opportunity to lock up a star long term and didn't. That was a massive mistake. Unless of course you believe the 3 year deal was a good strategy. Is that how all stars should be handled in your opinion? Somehow you're trying to justify the Flames mistake by roping Bratt into the argument and saying look he got bridged too. In reality his bridge deal probably hurts the Devils since if they would have went long term on his last contract he'd probably be an absolutely huge steal. But regardless of what they did it doesn't change the fact that Tkachuk has nothing to do with Bratt and the Flames royally screwed up giving their franchise player a 3 year deal. Probably one of the biggest blunders in recent history. Pay your young stars. I guess in your eyes they should have bridged Hughes with a 3 year deal. Maybe Hischier too.
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Old 06-17-2023, 01:27 AM   #62
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The Flames had an opportunity to lock up a star long term and didn't. That was a massive mistake. Unless of course you believe the 3 year deal was a good strategy. Is that how all stars should be handled in your opinion? Somehow you're trying to justify the Flames mistake by roping Bratt into the argument and saying look he got bridged too. In reality his bridge deal probably hurts the Devils since if they would have went long term on his last contract he'd probably be an absolutely huge steal. But regardless of what they did it doesn't change the fact that Tkachuk has nothing to do with Bratt and the Flames royally screwed up giving their franchise player a 3 year deal. Probably one of the biggest blunders in recent history. Pay your young stars. I guess in your eyes they should have bridged Hughes with a 3 year deal. Maybe Hischier too.
Dude….
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The Flames had an opportunity to lock up a star long term and didn't. That was a massive mistake. Unless of course you believe the 3 year deal was a good strategy. Is that how all stars should be handled in your opinion? Somehow you're trying to justify the Flames mistake by roping Bratt into the argument and saying look he got bridged too. In reality his bridge deal probably hurts the Devils since if they would have went long term on his last contract he'd probably be an absolutely huge steal. But regardless of what they did it doesn't change the fact that Tkachuk has nothing to do with Bratt and the Flames royally screwed up giving their franchise player a 3 year deal. Probably one of the biggest blunders in recent history. Pay your young stars. I guess in your eyes they should have bridged Hughes with a 3 year deal. Maybe Hischier too.
How has not bridging Matthew or Marner worked out for TOR? Huge fail by them...they are now on the clock to trade Matthews or extend him at an absurd number.
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The Flames had an opportunity to lock up a star long term and didn't. That was a massive mistake. Unless of course you believe the 3 year deal was a good strategy. Is that how all stars should be handled in your opinion? Somehow you're trying to justify the Flames mistake by roping Bratt into the argument and saying look he got bridged too. In reality his bridge deal probably hurts the Devils since if they would have went long term on his last contract he'd probably be an absolutely huge steal. But regardless of what they did it doesn't change the fact that Tkachuk has nothing to do with Bratt and the Flames royally screwed up giving their franchise player a 3 year deal. Probably one of the biggest blunders in recent history. Pay your young stars. I guess in your eyes they should have bridged Hughes with a 3 year deal. Maybe Hischier too.
But we got money to spend on UFA gems

Strategy was to pinch your own players to get money to get help

Problem was they had no clue on who to get and end up with Brouwer, Hamonic, Neal and companies


Then the clock ran out on them.

Treliving saw the writing on the wall and run
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Old 06-17-2023, 12:00 PM   #65
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Bratt was a 6th round pick with four 30pts seasons and one 70pts season. He's also probably 4th or 5th on their roster in terms of importance. Tkachuk was a 6th overall pick, potential future captain, and probably the most important player to the Flames future. These are not the same. You don't bridge a player like Tkachuk. The Flames screwed up big time and everyone knows it including you.
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Bratt was a 6th round pick with four 30pts seasons and one 70pts season. He's also probably 4th or 5th on their roster in terms of importance. Tkachuk was a 6th overall pick, potential future captain, and probably the most important player to the Flames future. These are not the same. You don't bridge a player like Tkachuk. The Flames screwed up big time and everyone knows it including you.
Dude, try to follow the conversation:

a. Bratt gets deal.
b. Some posters say "Look at this great deal - that's why you don't bridge players - they should have done this with Tkachuk"
c. Others correctly pointed out that Bratt WAS bridged, and in worse increments than Tkachuk (and at least one of the first group said "oh yeah, you're right".

Whether or not the Flames "screwed up big time", Bratt is not an example to hold up as evidence of that screw up. That was the point which you seem to have missed. No one "roped Bratt in" to the argument. This was a conversation about Bratt and some people tried to "rope in" a Tkachuk comparison which is just not valid.
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