So about Kylington.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by bdubbs

I thought IamNotKenKing had some sort of ties to the Flames org?

He's related to the late Ken. He knows a few things.

[MrMike]

Let’s say Kylington is back next year. Who should we keep and who should we trade?

I’d like to run (and sorry if the left/right are wrong)

Andersson-Weegar
Zadorov-Kylington
Stecher-Poirier

Move Tanev and Hanifin out, somehow bring in a top 6 goal scorer which this team is lacking

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I find it kind of wrong that there are connections to deceased former members of the organization who are privy to the kylington situation.

The circle should be much smaller/tighter if it was that serious.

Then again, the amount of gossip in hockey circles is pretty out of control. The nhl connected friend I have knows a #### ton about a number of current players. It was pretty sobering to hear the amount/details that I did.

It is a bit desperate housewives-y for a league of dudes.

This is why weirdos like Friedman actually know things, despite coming across like a guy you wouldn't trust with any kind of sensitive information.

The NHL outside the rink is a weird culture.

Based on the things I've heard, there are loads of players that operate by a different set of rules than the rest of us normies do. And that #### that would make your jaw drop the first time you hear it is perfectly normal for them.

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

I find it kind of wrong that there are connections to deceased former members of the organization who are privy to the kylington situation.

The circle should be much smaller/tighter if it was that serious.

Then again, the amount of gossip in hockey circles is pretty out of control. The nhl connected friend I have knows a #### ton about a number of current players. It was pretty sobering to hear the amount/details that I did.

It is a bit desperate housewives-y for a league of dudes.

This is why weirdos like Friedman actually know things, despite coming across like a guy you wouldn't trust with any kind of sensitive information.

The NHL outside the rink is a weird culture.

Casual misogyny aside in my experience it's always been men who are way more of a gossipier than women.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

I think Kylington has every right to privacy and I've not been interested in prying into the situation at all.

However, it IS annoying when people like Steinberg constantly talk about how they know what it is but they tut tut others for wanting to know. If it's off limits, leave it off limits.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Casual misogyny aside in my experience it's always been men who are way more of a gossipier than women.

People who are discontent in their lives generally gravitate towards gossip the most I've found, with both genders.

People doing well are concerned with their progress - ideas, knowledge, opportunities. People that are trapped in their own #### find relief in discussing other people's dirty laundry.

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

Because I know what is correct.

And no, I am not going to share.
And no, I am not posting "I know" simply to look smart and hold back, but to stop non-sensical misinformation.

What great amazing insight . . . .

[jlh2640]

Every human being has a right to privacy. Where professional athletes differ is they are being paid millions of dollars to play a game. They are more than well compensated, part of this trade-off is that they are in the limelight a little more and their privacy is somewhat limited because of this. I never disagreed with Kylington's right to privacy, but how this played out is ridiculous on many levels. I just wish we all could move on already, but nope, it still is in the news and fans are asking what-ifs. . . .

Exactly why I no longer have any faith that he will be a part of the Flames future, as he is unreliable at best at this point. Hopefully, the team can sort this out and regain some of the 4 plus million he is signed for, for 2 years, providing he does not play another game.

At a personal level, I hope he is ok, I hope gets help, and I hope he gets some of his salary.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

What great amazing insight . . . .

It is though.

[jlh2640]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It is though.

The old " I know what it is" but " I am not sharing" spiel is always so helpful on a fan forum website. Where speculation is going to run rampant because literally, the entire purpose of these sites is fans' ability to speak and have their voices heard.

Here is my point, IF you are privileged to know the truth, say nothing. Why come on here saying I know but I won't, the right thing to do is say nothing. Let the moderators take care of the rest of it infringes on a rumor or unfair opinion. The Flames and Kylington opened the door to speculation with the bizarre he is late for camp discussion back in September. So if fans want to speculate that he has a gambling or legal issues, that is their right also. It is one thing to start a rumor and another to discuss the possibility of such circumstances. This is what the internet has created over time and the Flames, although doing well protecting his privacy, have opened a crazy door of endless speculation now.

This whole topic is ridiculous, the reality is, Kylington was not Flame this year, and who knows if he will be next year. It affected the team in many ways (on-ice play, d pairings, roster decisions and biggest of all salary cap). So many fans are heated about this and forget about the human aspect of it all. Especially after the season we all just suffered through.

Saying nothing on a forum is the better thing to do. End of the story, if someone wants to start stupid unfounded rumors, well, I guess that is up to the people who run this awesome site.

if only I knew an Orange Julius employee . . . .

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

The old " I know what it is" but " I am not sharing" spiel is always so helpful on a fan forum website. Where speculation is going to run rampant because literally, the entire purpose of these sites is fans' ability to speak and have their voices heard.

Here is my point, IF you are privileged to know the truth, say nothing. Why come on here saying I know but I won't, the right thing to do is say nothing. Let the moderators take care of the rest of it infringes on a rumor or unfair opinion. The Flames and Kylington opened the door to speculation with the bizarre he is late for camp discussion back in September. So if fans want to speculate that he has a gambling or legal issues, that is their right also. It is one thing to start a rumor and another to discuss the possibility of such circumstances. This is what the internet has created over time and the Flames, although doing well protecting his privacy, have opened a crazy door of endless speculation now.

This whole topic is ridiculous, the reality is, Kylington was not Flame this year, and who knows if he will be next year. It affected the team in many ways (on-ice play, d pairings, roster decisions and biggest of all salary cap). So many fans are heated about this and forget about the human aspect of it all. Especially after the season we all just suffered through.

Saying nothing on a forum is the better thing to do. End of the story, if someone wants to start stupid unfounded rumors, well, I guess that is up to the people who run this awesome site.

if only I knew an Orange Julius employee . . . .

You missed the point. A credible poster squashed BS from an noncredible poster. Or you'd rather spin the fake BoLevi narrative out of control?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

You missed the point. A credible poster squashed BS from an noncredible poster. Or you'd rather spin the fake BoLevi narrative out of control?

Yup, he didn't come on here to flex his knowledge and run away. Just to get rid of something that just wasn't true.

If Treliving came on here and said the same thing we'd say "OK, thanks".

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I don’t see why they can’t put him on LTIR though. I’m sure his contract is insured. But if he’s incapacitated and not playing the team should be able to use his cap space.

That would be logical.

Originally Posted by Dion

Many employers have short and long term disability plans for their employees.

Except the players are not employees, they are contractors and therefore would not qualify for STD and LTD in the normal sense. Or am I mistaken?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

This is not correct. Don't make something up.

It's BoLevi, anything and everything he said is made up.

[cam_calderon]

This is getting out of control, certainly unprecedented in my 10 years of following this team.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by MrMike

Let’s say Kylington is back next year. Who should we keep and who should we trade?

I’d like to run (and sorry if the left/right are wrong)

Andersson-Weegar
Zadorov-Kylington
Stecher-Poirier

Move Tanev and Hanifin out, somehow bring in a top 6 goal scorer which this team is lacking

I would trade Hanifin if Kylington is back. Stetcher has been great. You keep Tanev.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I don’t see why they can’t put him on LTIR though. I’m sure his contract is insured. But if he’s incapacitated and not playing the team should be able to use his cap space.

They just didn't have a reason. The plan was probably to accrue as much cap as possible and use it at the deadline but the team wasn't in a spot to buy.

[hah]

Kylington and/or the Flames posted on social media during the summer, pictures of himself dj'ing and partying in Greece. A month or two later he is not coming to training camp. This seems sus to me.



Within days of the Kylington post on socal media Makar and O'Connner of the Av's are posted on social media rafting down the Bow River in Calgary with the Stanley Cup.



I'm thinking why isn't Kylington posting pictures of himself working out/training over the summer after getting blown out by the E=NG.



yes I know, cool story bro.


A few days ago on social media,a post of Kylington shows up and he is working out. As such the fans who have heard nothing all season long about the guy, is now on social media, and still no one from Calgary Sports media is reporting anything about this.



As fans on a fan site and Kylington positing on social media as a "public figure" who a many of us support indirectly by purchasing, tickets jersey's etc. Inquiring minds want to know.


Maybe if Kylington kept off social media this would not be a thing, however that is not the case.


Posters and Media that "know things" but won't tell you, is also not credible. Half the time they spew wrong/incorrect and unsubstantiated stuff regularly.

[KelVarnsen]

Oy

[cam_calderon]

Iamnotkenking is certainly credible, and I'm sure he knows what it is. It is actually admirable to be respecting the team/Oliver's wishes, as annoying as it is for those who don't know.