Coronato says his intention is to sign with Flames when ready

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Will the NHL ever close this loophole? Whats stopping them from doing this?

It’s not a loophole, it’s what is intended.

Junior players can effectively do the same thing.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Cole436

A) It’s not fair to punish kids who want to get their degree.
B) If they make them draft eligible again after year 4, that means that potentially 22+ year olds are being allowed into the draft. They would have to change the draft cut off age for everyone, including CHL prospects to make that work.

Sorry Cole, I'm not responding to your post, just your sig. Is that Gaudreau? Will you change that to Coronato after he signed with the Flames? Just curious.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Interesting that they admitted paying attention to the whole Pelletier/Sutter thing. This is why it's important in the future that Darryl keeps that stuff behind closed doors as in this day and age. I don't think any damage has been done in regards to Coronato but I imagine prospects lower on the pecking order have taken note and may not feel good about making it with the team.

In this day of social media and when you have noted superstars like Georges Laroque opining, it can't be avoided.

Also, I am sure the numerous private conversations the Flames have had painted the whole and proper story.

Also, some crafty article editing by Francis likely left out the fact that he stirred the pot a bit to maintain his negative narrative, and flat out asked them if they followed the Pelletier Phillips story...but on the surface it appears that they brought it up out of the blue.

[Drunk Uncle]

Originally Posted by Slava

Particularly when you get 2 games to show that you belong.

2 games is all Pelletier needed to show he could be impactful. Why didn’t Phillips show the equivalent?

Either way I highly doubt Coronato is looking at a 24 year old career AHL guy who is 5’7 as the example of how players were handled. Phillips isn’t even mentioned in the quote. He’s looking at Pelletier as the example.

Either way, I read the quote as “give me an NHL spot and I’ll sign. Don’t and I go back to school.” Guess we’ll see.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pets - Zary - Coronato

That could be really fun line

[DazzlinDino]

Tre standing pat likely points to adding more youth next season. Would be interesting to see if thats somethingb Sutter would be on board with. We really don't have the pieces to acquire an elite player, so if they can't sign someone to complement Huberdeau I bet we see some injection of youth with a new window.

[Tbull8]

I love the way Huby has taken a mentor/big brother role with Pelletier. I think having some exciting young players with veterans to mentor them would be really fun to watch

[getbak]

One thing to remember about these sorts of interviews is the players and teams need to be careful about what they say to avoid any troubles with the NCAA. The player doesn't want risk saying the wrong thing and jeopardizing his eligibility and the team doesn't want to give the NCAA any reason to revoke access to drafted players during the season. Everyone needs to play along with the idea that it's all about getting an education for the student athletes and they're not just working toward signing a pro contract.

If you remember back to 2014, Gaudreau gave interviews at the Hobey Baker ceremony where he was still being cagey about his plans to turn pro or return for his senior year. Then, we later found out that he had already signed the contract shortly before the ceremony.


For me, the most-interesting part of Francis' story is the start:

Regardless of what the Calgary Flames do by Friday’s trade deadline, it certainly appears they’ll be adding a new forward by season’s end.

His name is Matthew Coronato.

That makes it sound like his signing a contract that burns the first year is just a matter of waiting for Harvard's season to end. Treliving and Coronato need to be vague and keep things focused on finishing his college year, but that's an uncharacteristically positive statement from Eric Francis.

[Samonadreau]

Ive been a critic/pessimist of Coronato wanting to sign here. Really hope Im wrong and would love to see him sign this spring.

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by McG

Well, what about the person himself and not the local hockey team? Not everyone sees playing hockey as their ultimate goal. Just saying.

Not sure your expectation of what a loyal fan base should consider in a moment like that is very realistic. I'm sure there are some who would take it to the extreme and attack the person but I think a majority of people in here would lament the fact another potential cornerstone player who can help turn the franchise around left. He can do whatever he wants, if that his goal, I'm not attacking it, but that doesn't mean I'd wouldn't be disappointed that he would essentially be choosing another team in free agency.

In regards to your point about trading him and not losing him for nothing. Sure that would probably happen, but if it turned into another Fox situation, where the player turned into a Norris candidate, we would still be on the losing end of that transaction.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

It’s not a loophole, it’s what is intended.

Junior players can effectively do the same thing.

Junior players can't play past age 20 and have nowhere to play unless they sign an ELC with drafting team or move to Europe.

The loophole is not being able to sign NCAA players and have them develop in college, fortunately for the Flames Coronato doesn't come from a wealthy family(un-like Fox) and wants to start his pro career and earn some money.

[Nelson]

This is great news!

[kipperiggy]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

I love the way Huby has taken a mentor/big brother role with Pelletier. I think having some exciting young players with veterans to mentor them would be really fun to watch

And for this reason we should not be trading Backlund as suggested in another post.

[Tacoman]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Junior players can't play past age 20 and have nowhere to play unless they sign an ELC with drafting team or move to Europe.

The loophole is not being able to sign NCAA players and have them develop in college, fortunately for the Flames Coronato doesn't come from a wealthy family(un-like Fox) and wants to start his pro career and earn some money.

If a junior player is not signed within two years of being drafted, they re-enter the draft. If they aren't taken in that draft, they can sign wherever they want. NHL teams don't hold a player's rights indefinitely regardless of what league they go to.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Tacoman

If a junior player is not signed within two years of being drafted, they re-enter the draft. If they aren't taken in that draft, they can sign wherever they want. NHL teams don't hold a player's rights indefinitely regardless of what league they go to.

Not exactly, they can only re-enter the draft if they're not offered a reasonable contract. Massive difference.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Will the NHL ever close this loophole? Whats stopping them from doing this?

It's the NCAA's rule. If NHL teams could sign their college players before they left college, it wouldn't be an issue.

The only way to fix it is to add years to UFA for players going to college. You don't want to disincentivize that.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Junior players can't play past age 20 and have nowhere to play unless they sign an ELC with drafting team or move to Europe.

The loophole is not being able to sign NCAA players and have them develop in college, fortunately for the Flames Coronato doesn't come from a wealthy family(un-like Fox) and wants to start his pro career and earn some money.

They can play the extra year in Europe, college players play an extra year in college.

Not seeing that big a difference.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by kipperiggy

And for this reason we should not be trading Backlund as suggested in another post.

But if Backlund indicates he is not wanting to sign an extension with Calgary, he needs to me moved.

Calgary will need to move at least one veteran out in any event, they should make their decision based on signability.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

Calgary will need to move at least one veteran out in any event, they should make their decision based on signability.

And on longevity and viability of the player. Backlund is 33. Time to move him.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

And on longevity and viability of the player. Backlund is 33. Time to move him.

If someone blows their socks off either today or in the summer I get that.

But I also see value in taking a player coast to coast in a Calgary jersey, and if you're going to do it he's the guy.

Bleeds Calgary and still is affective as hell.