02-15-2023, 07:51 PM
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#61
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Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
Wolf has played 99 AHL games. Lol @ the idea of rushing him.
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how many 21 year old goalies in the league right now though? Like in a starter or backup role not someone who had to come in for a game or two due to injury.
hint Spencer Knight
that's it
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02-15-2023, 07:54 PM
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#62
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: CGY
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Regardless of how good he is, and he is freaking good, calling him up while the Flames are struggling to make the playoffs is too high an opportunity cost. If he wins, great, but then the expectations of the fans go through the roof. If he loses, it hurts the team he wants to make and play for, and likely causes a bit of a headcase for him. Let him crush the AHL this season and re-evaluate next season.
Or Markstrom gets injured, we roll with Vladar and Wolf, and everyone is happy.
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02-15-2023, 08:17 PM
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#63
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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Until our shooting percentage is better than bottom-10 in the league, leave Wolf in the AHL.
Our scoring problem is, IMO, worse than our goaltending problem.
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02-15-2023, 08:28 PM
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#64
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by driveway
Until our shooting percentage is better than bottom-10 in the league, leave Wolf in the AHL.
Our scoring problem is, IMO, worse than our goaltending problem.
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8th in the league in 5v5 goals.
We have a powerplay problem, but the overall scoring issues are bit overblown.
I dont disagree though, until there is an injury you dont call him up right now.
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02-15-2023, 08:29 PM
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#65
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by TheScorpion
It absolutely does take time for goalies but I don't know how you can come to the conclusion that Wolf isn't there yet against pro-level shooters when he's been better than everyone else at his position in the entire AHL since he entered the league. There really hasn't been any adjustment period at all.
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I get that. And it’s not a conclusion, it’s an opinion.
Also, I’m not just watching the saves. I’m watching the goals he lets in and try to extrapolate at an even higher level.
Pretty confident he can adjust though. I’m very bullish on him but like nearly all goalies that have made a sustained career at a high level, I’d prefer (not concluded) to let him get more reps.
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02-15-2023, 08:47 PM
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#66
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InternationalVillager
Wolf has played 99 AHL games. Lol @ the idea of rushing him.
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Elite players don’t play 100 AHL games.
Wolf is trending to be elite. He has been the best goalie in his league every year for the last 4 years.
If he was called up, it would take him 3-5 games to adjust to the level and then he would be a top 10 goalie, guaranteed.
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02-15-2023, 08:58 PM
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#67
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
If he was called up, it would take him 3-5 games to adjust to the level and then he would be a top 10 goalie, guaranteed.
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Since you can see the future, could you please let me know which will be the next cryptocurrency to skyrocket? Cheelee? BlueMove?
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02-15-2023, 09:31 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Most of my thoughts have already been mentioned, so I don't have much to add except this:
*ahem*
What a mother####ing homerun of a 7th round pick. Whatever scout pushed for him at that pick should just be handed the keys to the GM's office now. Insane.
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02-15-2023, 09:46 PM
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#69
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Keep Wolf in the A unless there is an injury. Would rather him continued success in the A this season and go for a deep playoff run there. If the flames are out of it and its the last game of the season, give him the start to reward him and then send him back down
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02-15-2023, 09:48 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Calgary
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If even Sutter was in a panic I doubt he'd ask for this to happen. Sutter likely doesn't expect this group to do anything worthwhile this year.
Wolf needs to become a champion and some prospects need to do the same to prove they are ready for the next step. No one is standing out right now really....I hear Vladar and Toffoli and have barely watched this year and know nothing . But the bits and bites I do hear are that this year for the Flames is a complete wash.
I hope we see the wranglers go deep and have this city support them .
Let Wolf finish whats been started. It's exciting .
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02-15-2023, 10:06 PM
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#71
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Yes please. Markstrom is horrible.
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02-15-2023, 10:24 PM
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Scoring Winger
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I would not be surprised to see Wolf play some games if Vladar struggles with elevated role.
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02-15-2023, 11:56 PM
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#73
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Tomas Vokoun (9th rounder), played 126 games in the minors (91 games in the AHL and 35 games in the ECHL). Played his first NHL game as a 20 year old as an emergency call up, but didn't see his next game until 3 seasons later.
I'd say he was pretty elite.
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02-16-2023, 12:38 AM
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#74
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Why not? Give him a game or two.
Markstrom is done mentally.
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02-16-2023, 12:55 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Naitix
I would not be surprised to see Wolf play some games if Vladar struggles with elevated role.
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Well hes going to need an elevated roll first.
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02-16-2023, 01:42 AM
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#76
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
Not until the goalie coaching department gets a re-model. Keep him as far away from Flames development as possible for now.
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They don't deserve to have the chance to #### up Wolf
Get this guy some proper coaches that can help transition him to the nhl level
And get Sigalet the #### out of here already
He's failed for a decade to do anything other than oversee every goalie that rolled through here nosedive their career
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02-16-2023, 01:49 AM
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#77
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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These would be much darker times without wolf on the horizon
The problem is short term we have a markstrom sized boulder standing between us and enjoying that high end goaltending
And I want to see where Vladar's trajectory goes as well, no need to jettison him prematurely
I just pray another GM has more faith in a markstrom rebound than we do
Last edited by TrentCrimmIndependent; 02-16-2023 at 01:52 AM.
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02-16-2023, 02:28 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
how many 21 year old goalies in the league right now though? Like in a starter or backup role not someone who had to come in for a game or two due to injury.
hint Spencer Knight
that's it
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How many 21 year old goalies have won 3 straight(soon to be 4) goalie of the year awards and didn't get a sniff at the NHL?
Hint...none
My fear is the Flames will over cook the kid in the minors, Ken Dryden once said goalies need to grow with the competition in order to maximize their potential.
He needs to be in the NHL at the very least next season.
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02-16-2023, 05:39 AM
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#79
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Crash and Bang Winger
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It’s funny our prospects get ranked near the bottom yet our AHL team is number 1.
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02-16-2023, 07:39 AM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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The question of whether Wolf is ready is only half of this. The other is whether you want to put him in this situation.
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