[Rumour] Chychrun trade talk heating up

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Don’t want to trade coronato

If he's showing resistance to signing, dealing him for Chychrun makes sense

If he isn't adverse to signing (and I expect this to be the case given the current need for scoring in our top 6), do not deal him

If I have to pick between retaining wolf or coronato, it's probably wolf .. too much consistent elite-play at every level to ignore, whereas coronato has been good but not anywhere close to gaudreau-good at the NCAA level .. so he's more of a wild card

But we desperately could use his shot if it converts at the NHL level

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Flames win 7-2 and fans have already forgotten the bad times this season.

There’s absolutely no way you mortgage what little future we have in the prospect pool and your 1st in the deepest draft since 2004 at this point.

For the love of god, I hope this goes away fast.

This isn’t a rental though, this is a 24 yo potentially elite d man on a good contract. You may not get a similar talent picking 16th in this year’s draft. And if you do, its 2-3 years before they can contribute (probably).

As far as skaters go Sutter seems to value them: D Men > Centres > Wingers

So giving up a top 4, maybe top 2 d man if Hanifin goes, for a winger seems and a pick seems like a good trade.

I’d like this trade. It could help the PP. Would push big Z into a better role with fewer minutes.

[DylanScores]

As much as I want chicaron on our team I don't think he will flourish here. It seems to me that his potentials will be maximized on a team that utilizes skilled guy's skills and coaches putting their aces in places. It would be sweet to have Andy, Noah and Chicaron on our blue line though.

[traptor]

Chychrun makes very little sense to me unless you already plan to move two of hanifin, tanev and kylington.

Top 4 d is pretty set at the moment, nit sure why we would mortgage our future for marginal improvement.

[DylanScores]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Apparently Weekes on Sirius XM just said L A with Byfield going the other way.

I am surprised that Toronto hasn't been mentioned as a trade destination yet!

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

This isn’t a rental though, this is a 24 yo potentially elite d man on a good contract. You may not get a similar talent picking 16th in this year’s draft. And if you do, its 2-3 years before they can contribute (probably).

As far as skaters go Sutter seems to value them: D Men > Centres > Wingers

So giving up a top 4, maybe top 2 d man if Hanifin goes, for a winger seems and a pick seems like a good trade.

I’d like this trade. It could help the PP. Would push big Z into a better role with fewer minutes.

I don't watch the Coyotes nearly enough, but is he elite? Or will he be another Hanifin/Weegar?

If he really is elite, then I don't mind the Flames spending prime assets. I just don't want the Flames spending a significant amount of assets on a 'Toffoli/Kadri' equivalent but on D.

[Heavy Jack]

Kylington + 23 1st + Coronato seems like a steep price to pay but Chychrun is only 24 and is just 2 seasons removed from 18 G 23 A 41 PTS in 56 games which is a 60 pt pace so I think the sky is the limit for him especially on a team that isn’t the Yotes.

Chychrun - Andersson
Hanifin - Tanev
Weegar - Zadorov
Gilbert - Stone

That’s ridiculous depth at D, go out and snag Kravtsov on a buy low deal and I think Calgary could have a dangerous club but I still haven’t liked how up and down we’ve been all year. If we do make a splash though I prefer going after a 24 YO potential cornerstone D instead of a 35 YO cup champ in Kane as it’s a trade that is both for now and for the future.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by traptor

Chychrun makes very little sense to me unless you already plan to move two of hanifin, tanev and kylington.

Top 4 d is pretty set at the moment, nit sure why we would mortgage our future for marginal improvement.

The only D men signed beyond next season is Razz amd Weegar. Tanev likely won't be back. Age will be a factor. Zads? Who knows. Shilly? Who knows.

So given the knowledge that the only D men signed beyond next season are 2 RHD, doesn't it make sense to go after a 24 year old top 4 LHD?

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by traptor

Chychrun makes very little sense to me unless you already plan to move two of hanifin, tanev and kylington.

Top 4 d is pretty set at the moment, nit sure why we would mortgage our future for marginal improvement.

Yeah, Kylington may never come back - we don’t know.

Hanifin is the kind of talent and contract that could get you an elite scorer, maybe more.

It’s weird getting Chychurn to replace Hanifin, unless maybe another team really wants Hanifin.

So you cover D (one more year) and add scoring.

IDK, probably wishful thinking that BT could fix this team on the fly with hockey trades in an era where those never seem to happen anymore. This is way more interesting than spending picks on Schenn.

[Flames1217]

Having both Tanev and Chychrun in our Top 4 might not be a good idea.

Both have struggled with injuries and I wouldn't want to enter a season with the risk of losing two of your top 4 defenceman.

[dammage79]

Literally EVRYTHING points to the Flames going after Chychrun.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

he looks pretty legit. his floor is probably a good #2. his ceiling, as posted above, is the sky

[DylanScores]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Interesting Lou mentioned that he heard Pagnotta mention that something big could happen for the Flames by Monday during the pregame show this morning. This does have the marks of a Treliving move getting a player with multiple years left on his deal.

Flames could trade Hanifin in the summer time and if Kylington comes back next year the D is in good shape. Feels like Coronato and the 23 1st would need to be on the table

Not really sure what to think of Oliver yet. He had a good year last year, but the previous years were meh. Did the Flames put him on waivers before? Do you guys think that expecting him to step up next year like last year is too ambitious for the Flames? I hope that he is feeling better but missing almost a year of playing against the best players in the world would set him up to fail? What do you guys think?

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Literally EVRYTHING points to the Flames going after Chychrun.

Wasn't there also murmurs of something coming to a head with the Flames prior to the game today?

I don't know if it ALL lines up, but if someone told me this is what they're working at, it makes a lot of sense.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by traptor

Chychrun makes very little sense to me unless you already plan to move two of hanifin, tanev and kylington.

Top 4 d is pretty set at the moment, nit sure why we would mortgage our future for marginal improvement.

Acquiring Chychrun is a futures move.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Literally EVRYTHING points to the Flames going after Chychrun.

Yeah it’s the exact position Treliving targets for our market. Young cost controlled and defenceman.

I’d just prefer it’s Zary than Coronato if it does go that way.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

I like now + future type moves like this could potentially be

it helps the "Sutter window" and it helps long term

an ideal trade target for me is a 21-24 year old with NHL experience on the cusp of blossoming into their role

[Heavy Jack]

Chychrun is being under rated for sure as marginal improvement makes it seem like it would be a lateral move, he’s a special player with a super unique toolbox at a prime position, players like him never come available especially at his age so it would be a big land if Treliving managed to get something done here. The more I think about it the more I like the idea of adding him though Ill admit it would be painful to trade our 1st and Coronato and would be nervous for the first little bit lol.

[bigrangy]

I think Chychrun is more of a 1B d-man, and the Coyotes want 1A price for him.

Getting him would feel pretty similar to getting Toffoli. Not the guy the team needs to get them where they need to go but adding a solid player.

[browna]

Just a reminder, Flames have 29 games to go and are 6 points out of the division lead, 3 points out of the playoffs. There will be 20+ games post deadline or so.

Anyone who wants Chychrun now will overpay. Sure he's not a pure rental but anyone who wants him now as opposed to the offseason (Arizona could get a tidy sum for him in the offseason) is using him to bolster for this season. Flames have bigger needs.