Training Camp Day 15 Notes - Milano and Eakin released

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by old-fart

If he signs a 2-way deal, he would have to clear waivers to be assigned to the Wranglers. if he signs an AHL only deal, he does not. That takes any risk of a claim out of the picture.

Then, sometime down the road, if he signs an NHL deal he would not have to sign waivers to play in Calgary, but would have to clear at that time to be assigned to the AHL.

That, of course, assumes that Stone would accept an AHL deal.

I’m not sure the date during the season, but if a player signs an NHL contract after that specific date, he has to go through waivers. Islanders stole Nabokov one year like that from Detroit I believe, and let’s not forget the Ryan Orielly fiasco.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

I don't get having Andersson over Weegar on PP1. Weegar is quicker in case of a rush the other way, AND he has better offensive skills. I'm unconvinced that Andersson's shot is worth having on the top unit.

And, if you're going to have 2 D on the 2nd unit, including Hanifin, then leave him and Andersson together.

Weegar on the 1st, Hanifin-Andersson on the 2nd

seems too obvious

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by SeanCharles

He could sign an 2-way deal and play for the Wranglers.



I'm sure other NHL GM's know Stone only wants to play in Calgary so won't claim him as a professional courtesy.



Then we have Stone as depth in case we need it.

Why pn earth would Stone sign a two-way deal? When he signs his contract it will be for a guaranteed NHL salary.

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[Goriders]

Originally Posted by getbak

Remaining in camp...

3	D	CONNOR MACKEY
4	D	RASMUS ANDERSSON
6	D	JUUSO VALIMAKI
8	D	CHRISTOPHER TANEV
16	D	NIKITA ZADOROV
26	D	MICHAEL STONE (PTO)
52	D	MACKENZIE WEEGAR
53	D	NICOLAS MELOCHE
55	D	NOAH HANIFIN

10	C	JONATHAN HUBERDEAU
11	C	MIKAEL BACKLUND
17	L	MILAN LUCIC
20	C	BLAKE COLEMAN
21	C	KEVIN ROONEY
22	C	TREVOR LEWIS
24	R	BRETT RITCHIE
28	C	ELIAS LINDHOLM
29	C	DILLON DUBE
63	C	ADAM RUZICKA
67	L	RADIM ZOHORNA
73	R	TYLER TOFFOLI
88	L	ANDREW MANGIAPANE
91	C	NAZEM KADRI

25	G	JACOB MARKSTROM
80	G	DAN VLADAR

Looks like they are set on forwards and goalies. A little surprised zohorna gets a spot minus scrutiny.

Defence will be a bit of a mess. Especially when Kylington comes back. Don’t think any of the remaining players are waiver exempt. Might mean Stone will be in tough. Some risk of losing someone at final cut down.

Guess is Stone is released and one of Valimaki or Meloche are sent down.

[Icon]

Because I'm lazy and won't look into it myself...

Anyone else releasing any PTOs of interest?

More a curiosity than anything as I feel we're set at this point unless Tre makes a trade.

[Jordan!]

That red mullet looked great though

[Enoch Root]

Milano was definitely a disappointment - had he been what we hoped, he would have been a perfect fit for the top 9. Eakin was meh - no difference between him and the other filler guys. Zohorna has more upside.

The D is interesting, in the sense that I am surprised they haven't already dealt with it. It seems to me that Mackey and Stone will get the 2 available spots - maybe Meloche bumps Mackey - and the other two go down.

If Valimaki gets claimed, it is very helpful for the cap, and banking space for the trade deadline

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by old-fart

Then, sometime down the road, if he signs an NHL deal he would not have to sign waivers to play in Calgary, but would have to clear at that time to be assigned to the AHL.

I don't believe that is entirely true. I am quite certain I saw some conversation earlier this Fall that Stone would still need to clear waivers to join the team even if he doesn't sign a NHL deal until months into the season.


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[bubbsy]

I'm definitely concerned about Dube and toffolli being top 6 wingers. I don't know if they are capable of consistent offensive output.

Other than that, roster looks good on paper.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Icon

Because I'm lazy and won't look into it myself...

Anyone else releasing any PTOs of interest?

More a curiosity than anything as I feel we're set at this point unless Tre makes a trade.

Doubt they bring in the waiver guy if they were watching other team’s PTOs

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I'm definitely concerned about Dube and toffolli being top 6 wingers. I don't know if they are capable of consistent offensive output.

Other than that, roster looks good on paper.

I think Dube is going to take a step this season. I’m with you on Toffoli.

[Toonage]

If we were relying solely on Toffoli & Dube in the top 6 then there may be some concern but they're interchangeable. Huberdeau, Lindholm, Managiapane & Kadri. Thats the focus.

[activeStick]

Not too surprising though Eakin didn't look horrible but I'd agree we have others that are similar. All that hang-wringing that the Flames cut their prospects because eof Eakin too! We'll learn for next training camp from this, I'm sure!

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Why pn earth would Stone sign a two-way deal? When he signs his contract it will be for a guaranteed NHL salary.

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Well he is on record saying he won't play anywhere else so it makes sense. If the team says take it or leave it he wont' have another option.

If he plays his cards right, he'll make a really good AHL salary ($450k and still get into a few NHL games at some point for sure.

[Flaming Horse]

Is this team fast enough and will they be able to handle the greasers speed and McKinnons speed? Its only preseason but they have a ways to go to be ready for that first game against the Avs.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

it's going to take some work and time for things to click . I thought they out worked Winnipeg for stretches but had trouble generating grade a chances because of lack of familiarity . I'm glad dube is in a top 6 spot because he either will flourish into the player we want to see him be or not . getting bounced around the bottom six where his point production will be limited is a waste in my opinion

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I think Dube is going to take a step this season. I’m with you on Toffoli.

I've said that for 3 years now for Dube and been disappointed. I think he is what he is, a decent bottom 6 forward.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Bingo

And what to make of the new giant winger?

His metrics were good last night, but man I barely noticed him.

He went plane to plane to game so....

He looked bagged in pre game interview.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I've said that for 3 years now for Dube and been disappointed. I think he is what he is, a decent bottom 6 forward.

He had 32 points while playing on the third line last year, and has never had an opportunity like this. That line has looked stellar in two preseason games and he does not look at all out of place. Dube has done this preseason what most were hoping to see Milano, Phillips or Pelletier do. I really think he is on the cusp of a breakout.

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[bdubbs]

Agreed, I think Dube will take a step this year if he keeps up his work ethic. He's on the cusp of popping.