07-22-2022, 04:45 PM
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#61
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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I never thought anything would make me think the 2018 incident would pale in comparison and yet here we are.
And this doesn’t sound like accusations the way 2018 is, where there can be a shred of doubt. This is a recorded gang rape. There’s no grey area when it comes to an unconscious victim. These ####ers are guilty as sin.
This could literally tank hockey Canada. How does anyone turn around and cheer for the make up tourney in a month? I know I can’t. It’s not fair to the current crop of players but honestly the hockey Canada logo is poisoned beyond repair.
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07-22-2022, 04:47 PM
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#62
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Self Imposed Retirement
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Calgary
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This is disturbing to say the least, I hope they can still get prosecuted. Who knows how many other stories now that will come out.
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07-22-2022, 05:34 PM
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#63
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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07-22-2022, 05:35 PM
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#64
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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From the r/hockey post on this:
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Grew up with Scottie. There was a similar incident back when he played on the Oil Barons where Scottie and other players on the team engaged in group sex with a young, intoxicated girl.
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07-22-2022, 05:39 PM
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#65
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
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Taking nothing away from the issue at hand but jesus, were women that shameless when it came to junior prospects?
They hadn't even made the big show yet!
Chalking that #### up to we were kids, and we were horny is the lamest way to brush off such heinous acts in your mind.
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07-22-2022, 05:41 PM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Reports like these make me care considerably less about the uncertain and difficult state of the Calgary Flames in the Summer of 2022.
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07-22-2022, 05:42 PM
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Taking nothing away from the issue at hand but jesus, were women that shameless when it came to junior prospects?
They hadn't even made the big show yet!
Chalking that #### up to we were kids, and we were horny is the lamest way to brush off such heinous acts in your mind.
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Totally! What guy at that age isn’t a horny little idiot. I was able to escape my late teens without having gang raped women.
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07-22-2022, 05:48 PM
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#68
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by AC
From the r/hockey post on this:
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None of this is shocking to me. I’ve been at arms length from hockey at higher levels my whole life & the weird group sex crime rape fraternizing thing has always been talked about.
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07-22-2022, 05:48 PM
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#69
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under
Totally! What guy at that age isn’t a horny little idiot. I was able to escape my late teens without having gang raped women.
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Yeah.. sexually abusing an unresponsive girl and clashing swords and fluids with your teammates. I bet that was so hard to resist.  
How did the rest of us make it through our teens without doing the same thing? It's practically a rite of passage..
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07-22-2022, 05:48 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by calgARI
Reports like these make me care considerably less about the uncertain and difficult state of the Calgary Flames in the Summer of 2022.
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Been thinking the same thing. With our assistant gm at hockey Canada through this and a possible perpetrator playing on the team it seems losing 2 star players is the lesser thing that's having me consider relinquishing my season tickets.
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07-22-2022, 05:53 PM
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#71
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I never thought anything would make me think the 2018 incident would pale in comparison and yet here we are.
And this doesn’t sound like accusations the way 2018 is, where there can be a shred of doubt. This is a recorded gang rape. There’s no grey area when it comes to an unconscious victim. These ####ers are guilty as sin.
This could literally tank hockey Canada. How does anyone turn around and cheer for the make up tourney in a month? I know I can’t. It’s not fair to the current crop of players but honestly the hockey Canada logo is poisoned beyond repair.
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This doesn't shock me at all to be honest. Hockey boy culture was/is the most toxic #### ever.
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07-22-2022, 05:54 PM
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#72
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by chedder
Been thinking the same thing. With our assistant gm at hockey Canada through this and a possible perpetrator playing on the team it seems losing 2 star players is the lesser thing that's having me consider relinquishing my season tickets.
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So do it.
Nothing related to the issue though.
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07-22-2022, 06:10 PM
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#73
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First Line Centre
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This #### is putrid. What is coming next, cannibalism? I need a break from hockey.
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07-22-2022, 06:18 PM
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#74
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Infinit47
This #### is putrid. What is coming next, cannibalism? I need a break from hockey.
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The sport and culture around it is frankly moving towards repulsive, ever since the Beach story and the pitiful responses from people within the Blackhawks organization with the audacity to go to bat for those that helped facilitate conditions for abuse to occur.
The fact that we still can't seem to get identities of the perpetrators - meaning that a number of people on the inside are still protecting them, and none will step forward to take accountability is just such a bad look. Not from a professional perspective but a human one.
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07-22-2022, 07:00 PM
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#75
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
This doesn't shock me at all to be honest. Hockey boy culture was/is the most toxic #### ever.
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The fact it’s not shocking to anyone that players engage in this behaviour is disturbing in and of itself. It feels like it’s just a matter of time until we hear more stories come to light.
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07-22-2022, 07:02 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by NOISIA
So do it.
Nothing related to the issue though.
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Me saying I want to step away from supporting a sport and team that employs people that are likely involved or knew about an apparent culture of sexual abuse and cover ups has nothing to do with the issue? Ok.
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07-22-2022, 07:24 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by kermitology
Don't for a minute think that this is a Canadian problem.. it's a hockey problem and generally a male problem, but the alpha male culture of hockey is a big contributor.
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I wasn't implying that it was just a problem with Canadian hockey teams. I left the possibility open to other World Junior / national teams from other countries having the same sort of culture.
It's just that here in Canada, World Juniors are a really big deal (and maybe more so than in other countries). They're like our version of the Olympics. So the implications of a fallout involving Hockey Canada would be huge. It'd be arguably at the same scale as the IOC banning the Russian Olympic team from participating in the Olympics for state-sponsored doping. It's a widespread systemic issue that has been allowed to go on for far too long.
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07-22-2022, 07:34 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
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This is a sports problem. The deification of athletes creates a culture where young elite athletes live an entitled existence.
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07-22-2022, 08:16 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sunnyvale
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Originally Posted by Strange Brew
This is a sports problem. The deification of athletes creates a culture where young elite athletes live an entitled existence.
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This is problematic well beyond sports.
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07-22-2022, 08:43 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Derek Sutton
This is problematic well beyond sports.
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You're right, it is. But I'll reiterate.
The fact that this happens significantly more often while in groups tends to make one think that its more pervasive as a 'Culture.'
A drunk hockey player alone might be a reasonable person.
A group of drunken hockey players is a disaster waiting to happen.
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